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The Washington Independent: Truth-Stretching a New Tactic for Palin

  • Independent Mind · 1 year ago
    Why is this website named "Independent? It is anything but. One of the most uninteresting reads I have had in a long time. I think I'm now dumber for reading this. Does that make me a liberal now?
  • Cach · 1 year ago
    Do you find it SO difficult to see Palin as the political opportunist that she is? I mean the troopergate thing is the most obvious example. The report CLEARLY points out that she broke a state law but she totally ignores it and instead claims the report vindicates her. I mean really, how can anyone admire this person? IF she argued strongly that the report is biased, or untrue, that would be an acceptable political arguement. The report says I'm guilty but I say they're wrong. Great, wonderful. BUT she doesn't do that, she simply REPLACES what the report says with something that's more politically convienient. Why can't you see through this? She's terrible! Case closed. Please try to think critically in the future.
  • Web Master · 1 year ago
    Palin is AWESOME!! and she WILL be the FIRST WOMAN president of the unitede states. ANd that being said hopefully we can get some moral judges and lock the lickes of Dodd and Frank up along with the Rezkos of this world!

    www.GoMcCainPalin.com
  • Web Master · 1 year ago
    BTW if you had done your due dilligence on this you would have found out that it was Todd who kept trying to get that moron fired, idiot.
  • Web Master · 1 year ago
    I agree. There is a very high level of low IQs here. I' wont be back unless it is to get a few laughs.
    www.GoMcCainPalin.com
  • Web MAster · 1 year ago
    Obama, does have links to terrorism and terrorists. He is THE LAST person we need in the whithous, do your due dilligence, this is an unfair attack piece on a true patriot who has more executive experience that Biden or Obama combined. Some of the 150, 000,000.00 million that BO has raised will be traced back to terrorists.
    By the way, you are on the wrong side of this, McCain Palin will win. Obama alson lied about how he was supposed to accept the funding.

    www.GoMcCainPalin.com
  • Change4thebetter · 1 year ago
    Get a life. Seriously.. Is it down to this? Gov. Palin is just not ready to be vice president and god forbid the president of the Greatest Nation on Earth..
    I think that this article is stating what has been obvious with most ppl with a eyes. Sarah Palin was not properly vetted. She was chosen on a whim in hopes of gathering more woman voters inparticular Hillary supporters. Well.. this is one Hillary supporter who would not vote for Palin if I were paid to at this point in time.
    Obama/Biden 08-12!!!!!!
  • Web MAster · 1 year ago
    You' re ignorant. Obama could nt even be his own security officer, that is how poorly BoBo was vetted, aas far as his "Broken Toy" Biden, they weill go down in "flames" when Nov 4 comes around.
  • GHM · 1 year ago
  • Web MAster · 1 year ago
    I know about 30 vets and they are ALL voting the McCain Palin ticket.
  • GHM · 1 year ago
    McBush is the guy
    that said Medicare is too expensive
    and it unfair to support Social Security
    and do not pass a vet. GI bill
    and do not give woman equal pay
    and do not give health care for children.
    and want to continue the war
    and caused the stock market failure
    and he's election team is nothing but Bush people and lobbyist!
    McCain is not good for the country!
    vote for Obama-Biden and all democrats!
  • Independent Mind · 1 year ago
    Change 4 the Better ?- Don’t make me laugh. When Obama talks about giving back the civil liberties that G.W. Bush has taken away, THEN AND ONLY THEN I might think of him as a change agent. As of now, he is nothing more than second rate, slide of hand magician. Keep you focused on the hand that has what you don’t like, so you’ll like the hand that has the alternative all the more, regardless if it has any substance to it. That’s not change I can believe in. Just more of the same. Let me give you a prep for 1 to 2 years out – Obama will not only not give back any of the authority that was never the presidents to begin with, he’ll enlarge those unconstitutional controls – OVER YOU. Think about that. I like neither candidate. I think they both fit the mold I just described. Change you can believe in – whatever….. There where some guys back in WWII that had the same message for folks. You might want to check into where that got them.

    Cach – Let me tell you what I find difficult to believe. I set here as an independent, hearing people tear this woman apart. Before the election and her nomination, she evidently was doing a fine job. A state with a large surplus, dividends provided to the populace and an approval rating of 80%. None of us knew her from Adam. Kind of like a good worker, the less noise you hear about their work, the better worker they usually are.

    Now we hear all this noise about Trooper Gate. Why are we not hearing about Biden’s brother who has been convicted of Fraud? Why are we not hearing about Biden’s son who is/ was a lobbyist? Why are we not hearing about Biden being the ORIGINAL author of the bill in the mid 90’s that allowed the original wire tapping of YOUR phone and email? That’s right Cach, everyone is in such an uproar about the Patriot Act. Well, hate to bust your bubble, but this wasn’t some new found authority given. Biden authored a bill that gave 90% of this authority over a decade ago. He no more fights for you and I than Mickey Mouse or Oprah Winfrey.

    Quite honestly the day that my civil liberties being taken away is a smaller story than a governor who fires her brother-in-law state trooper who threatened his wife, abused his position and tasered a child - well, we all deserve to go down the tubes. It tells me what kind of nit wits I live amongst.

    Cach - How would you look at it if it was YOUR CHILD that got tasered? Brings a different perspective to this doesn't it.....we are so cuaght up in political correctness, we can't even purge those who abuse their power. SAD. You are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    Cach, you are one of the people I refer to as Sheeple. You’re not half as smart or studied as you would like to believe you are. If you want to exchange critical thinking you better come prepared.

    GHM – You show such a lack of understanding of how things work and what causality is, may GOD have pity on your soul.
  • Tom · 1 year ago
    Congress approves President Bush's spy bill

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The Democratic-led Congress yielded to President Bush on Saturday and approved legislation to temporarily expand government's power to conduct electronic surveillance without a court order in tracking foreign suspects.

    Civil liberties groups charged the measure would create a broad net that would sweep up law-abiding U.S. citizens.

    But the House of Representatives gave its concurrence to the bill, 227-183, a day after it won Senate approval, 60-28.

    The action came amid warnings of possible attacks on the United States.

    "After months of prodding by House Republicans, Congress has finally closed the terrorist loophole in our surveillance law -- and America will be the safer for it," declared House Minority Leader John Boehner, an Ohio Republican.

    "We think it is not the bill that ought to pass," said House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. But he conceded he and fellow Democrats were unable to stop the measure in this national security showdown with the White House.

    "Protecting America is our most solemn obligation," Bush said earlier in the day in urging Congress to send him the bill so he could sign it into law. Watch Kelli Arena's report on what some call an intelligence gap »

    The measure would authorize the National Security Agency to intercept without a court order communications between people in the United States and foreign targets overseas.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/04/congress...
  • Srethng · 1 year ago
    This is a scary politician. The road she would lead this country down is very frightening; I believe she has more in common with Adolf Hitler than most Americans realize. The first time Hitler gave a speech he was hooked; his socialist party wasn't about anything more than the promotion of Adolf Hitler. He also used outright lies and hatred to promote himself.
  • Tom · 1 year ago
    I miss the old days when pols became corrupt AFTER they got to DC!
  • Independent Mind · 1 year ago
    Try reading this Mr.
    http://www.vetvoice.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1973

    Just got done reading your link GHM - I have to say, I had you pegged dead on the first time. You just verified it.

    Your link here is leaving out some important information. The reason he voted against these bills is they were smothered with pork barrel spending. Do your homework yet again. I don't like McCain anymore than you do, but your not brining educated arguments to the table, and I'll keep telling you that until you do.

    Oh - and for the record, I am a veteran, so this is near and dear to my heart. The worst years I EVER saw as a soldier was under Bill Clinton. We played war games with bananas as pistols and practiced jumping out of planes that were on the ground. Good stuff, let me tell ya.
  • Independent Mind · 1 year ago
    Tom and Srethng - Without looking at who you were referring to, it could have been applied to either one of the presidential candidates. NICE. Obama Change - for what? Srethng - you need to read my reference to WWII. You might get educated on the subject your trying to speak about. I hate it when people make reference to thinks they are obviously not educated on. There is no doubt, if you heard the similarities between Obama's blanket change statements and speeches during that time, it would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. G.W. Bush included.
  • SmallTownBoy · 1 year ago
    The portrait of Governor Palin emerging since the GOP convention has actually eased my fears of her becoming a formidable Vice President. I feared she was a a right-wing, religious fanatic with Machiavellian designs to grab power and impose her values on mainstream American. I gave her far too much credit.

    While she is intensely ambitious, with the chutzpah to jump into deep water unprepared, I think her skills as a politician are fairly limited to the basic maneuvering it takes to win office. Her easy shift from evasion and dodging, a time-honored political tactic, to outright lying and counter-factual assertions certainly raises questions about her ethics and lack of integrity. But her bungling of the TV interviews, lack of nuance in addressing her well-known weaknesses and the inept handling of her Governorship reveal to me someone who wants power but doesn't really know what to do with it. In this sense, she reminds me of George Bush, although she is much more ferocious and fierce. It is clear that she lacks the genius and the empire-building political designs of Dick Cheney. If she becomes the VP, I am confident that she will continue the shroud of secrecy that Cheney created in the VP office, but largely to avoid looking like she is out of her depth. At the end of the day, she won't have much affect on the White House at all.

    And even if she were to become President, by McCain's untimely death or after her own shot for the Presidency, she will likely let others call the shots so she can stay in power - just as she now does to make sure she wins the VP office. The quote Ms. McGann got from Art Hackney says it all, to me. Her agenda, capacity to abuse power and political craft no longer scare me. What scares me is who will stand behind her, in the curtains, what their agenda will be and how far will they be willing to undermine our democratic institutions.

    Keep up the great reporting, Laura!
  • Independent Mind · 1 year ago
    Smalltownboy - Are you serious? You guys really are the black helicopter conspiracy theorists aren't you?

    This woman was a small town mayor for Gods sake. I am NOT saying I think she is the strongest speaker, but I certainly did not see ONE thing in this article that showed, proved or identified she lied about. AGAIN to all you left wing nits, if it was your child that got tasered, how would you feel about it? This is the most overblown item in the news in the last decade. She not only should have canned this guy but probably should have done even more.

    I live in a "Right to work state". Do you even know what that means? That means they can fire you at any time for any reason. I don't see your self righteous butts down here making any noise about hundreds of people getting laid off for NO reason. You guys just don't get it. The average person can't identify with you when your basis for a stance is SOOOOOO woobly. Just like abortion. It's not just your stance on abortion that we look at, it's the fact you all are for abortion and against capital punishment. So we punish those who can't defend themselves, but we don't punish thsoe who have preyed on the innocent. IT MAKES NO SENSE. So take your conspiracy theories and Machiavellian designs and go write your manifesto somewhere up in the hills.
  • Markus · 1 year ago
    Truth stretching? If she doesn't just make up an answer (like Biden) she is accused of avoiding the question, if she does answer with something the Lib's don't like, it is truth stretching.

    Here is some more "truth stretching":

    This quote is from an article written in.....are you ready? 1999.

    "In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of [sub-prime] lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's." --New York Times, 1999

    http://sbvor.blogspot.com/search/label/Housing%...

    -Markus
  • Markus · 1 year ago
    Trying the link again:

    "http://sbvor.blogspot.com/search/label/Housing Mess - Obama"
  • skylonda · 1 year ago
    Alaskan voters and press will have to take some responsiblity here. Were they looking at Palin with eyes wide shut? She caught on to the Alaskan publics sentiments and took them for a ride. I'm wondering know with Alice outside the looking glass, if Alaska will have a change of heart towards Sarah and Todd's governorship?