DISQUS

The Washington Independent: Protesting Too Much

  • muffler · 8 months ago
    I’d read it if one person can find an original government source link for the document. I can’t and I am seriously doubting the origins of the paper. It’s not classified and so it would or should be easy to provide a link. Sorry, but these things take many months to produce and I doubt it was commissioned in 2009 if at all. It actually looks like a fraud to me. The whole thing has too good of a specific timing to infuriate and scare the right wing. Isn’t anyone looking at the timing and the content. Perfect marketing. I doubt the origins.
  • k55f · 8 months ago
    Wikileaks is the source. Fraud is the astroturfing of "teabagging". Why anyone making less than 250k would protest taxing millionaires at the same rate as taxed during the Raygun years is boggling to me. Wikileaks
  • james · 8 months ago
    "Why anyone making less than 250k would protest taxing millionaires at the same rate as taxed during the Raygun years is boggling to me."

    That is not what the tea party protests are about. If you'd pay attention instead of listening to left wing echo chamber talking points, you'd know that, and you would no longer be boggled.

    As much as you may think it is unpatriotic and a sign of right-wing insanity or idiocy to be opposed to W's horrible and irresponsible (where the F was the veto pen?) 400 billion deficit which took 8 years to accumulate, turning almost literally OVERNIGHT into a Trillion+ dollar deficit, based on bills which are not even READ in advance, let alone vetted and publicly debated, so that it can come to light as to how much of that mountain of money is REALLY intended to "stimulate" the economy --- there are legitimate viewpoints contrary to what Obama tells us.

    And last time I checked, there was no law on the books (yet) limiting ant-establishment protest rallies to left wing causes only.
  • Nixon · 8 months ago
    I admit to being a bit shocked that the young journalist who once wrote for Reason is now supporting the DHS targeting people for their political beliefs. It's amazing how an election will change people.
  • a. mcewen · 8 months ago
    But here I thought the report never said anything about conservatives. I think the question is very apropo. Why are you all jumping on the report if you are not mentioned in it?
  • Nixon · 8 months ago
    I'm a "returning veteran", along with 1 million plus others. No word on getting recruited yet though.
  • fnord · 8 months ago
    Nixon, sir, I dont read the report as demonizing veterans in general. But it seems quite sane, from a policing pov, to be aware if any veterans in a community starts hanging out with skinheads and/or joining the extreme anti-Obama crowd. As we both know, they have the skills to do something stupid.
  • Holly · 8 months ago
    No one cares about the tea parties. These people make less than $250,000 a year and are crying about the taxes being raised on 1% of the population. They are using the tea party as an excuse to complain about Obama. These are the same sort of people who went to McCain-Palin rallies just to spread their racist and unintellectual agendas. They are laughable because they don't even know what they are protesting.
  • R R white knights grassroots . · 8 months ago
    HOLLY COW YOU MORON, WHAT ROCK ARE YOU LIVING UNDER .? YOU DUM BLIND & BRAIN DEAD LIBRAL , EVEN YOUR "I AM GOING TO SAVE THE WORLD OSSOMA OBAMHA " IS WORRIED ABOUT THE (AMERICANTEA PARTY) OH YEAH NOT TO ALARM YOU BECOZ YOU ARE ALLREADY BRAIN DEAD.!!!!!!!! WAKE UP MORON YOU AND EVERYONE MAKING 250,000 IS GOING TO BE PAYING AND PAYING BIG TIME FOR THIS LOOSE CANON PRES. STUPID SPENDING SPREE GIVING BILLIONS TO THE COMPANYS AND IDIOTS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR DESTROYING THE ECONOMY.!!!!!!! THAT WAS A SUPER SMART THING TO DO WAS'T IT COMMON ADMITT IT THE GREAT RADICAL OSSOMA OBAMHA MADE A HUGE MISTAKE HERE ALLREADY IN HIS " AM GOING TO DESTROY AMERICA ADMINISTRATION.!!!!!!!! LETS JUST NEGOTIATE WITH ALL THE MUSLIM TERORIST OF THE WORLD STARTING WITH IRAN.!!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE THE HELL UP MORONS BEFORE AMERICA BECOME THE NEXT MUSLIM STATE.!!!!!!!!!!! OH AND IT PAINFULLY OBVIOUS THAT YOU MAKE LESS THAT $250,000 OR YOU WOULD BE PISSING AND MOANING THAT YOU ARE ALSO BEING TAXED TO HIGHLY.!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP AND TAKE OFF YOUR LIBRAL BRAIN WASHING HAT. SO YOU CAN THINK RATIONALLY OF THE VERY THRET THAT YOU ARE BEING TAXED OUT OF INCOME SAVINGS , RETIREMENT AND HOUSE & HOME..!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP YOU STUPID MORRONS.!!!!!!!!!
    WE DO NOT NEED AN EXCUSE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT OSSOMA OBAMHA RADICAL POLICYS.!!!!!!!! THAT THEATENS THE EXISTING MIDDLE CLASS TO BE NO MORE.!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP SOCCER MOM SOCIAL SOCIETY , THE PROTEST IS TO SAVE THE MIDDLE CLASS. AND STOP THIS ILLEGAL TAXATION , HOLLY COW BLIND MORRON CANT YOU SEE IT.. ITS CALLED ""DEPRESSION"" ..!!!!!!!!!!!! THE STIMULIS SHOULD GO BACK TO THE TAX PAYERS NOT THE THIEVES THAT STOLD IT FROM THE ECONOMY.. WAKE UP STUPID.!!!!!!!!! YOU ARE THE REAL LAUGHABLE ONE BECOZ YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO NOT SEE WHAT THEY ARE PROTESTING, MORRON.YOU NEED TO WAKE UP BECAUSE YOU ARE ALSO GETTING SCREWED WITH YOUR PANTS ON.!!!!!!!!!!!!! ITS OK YOUR CHILDREN WILL BE THE ONES TO PAY FOR THIS , REALLY YOU ARE OK DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT IS GOING TO BE OK JUST FOLLOW "TOM" THE OTHER MORRON HE WILL MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD.!!!!!!! JUST MOVE TO THE CITY AND STAND IN THE SOCIAL LINES THEY WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOU..!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP MORONS BEFOR ITS TOO LATE.!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 24AheadDotCom · 8 months ago
    I have to confess that I just did a find through the PDF, I didn't read the whole thing. However, even doing just that I found more than Weigel ever could.

    Namely, the report says prominent civil rights organizations have observed an increase in anti-Hispanic crimes over the past five years. That tracks misleading statements from a far-left group. And, compare the report to past false statements from Obama.

    If Weigel were a real reporter, he'd take the excerpt I provided and find out from the DHS whether they were relying on the SPLC and if so why we should trust the rest of the report given the SPLC's reputation.

    Of course, Weigel won't do that because he isn't a real reporter.
  • a. mcewen · 8 months ago
    So according to you, SPLC is "indirectly linked to the Mexican government." That's the exact words from the link claiming that SPLC is sending out misleading statements. I think we know what direction THAT site is coming from.
  • JimTreacher · 8 months ago
    You don't seem to have a problem with revolutionary rhetoric when Kos & Co. spew it.
  • DC Madman · 8 months ago
    Would you care to quote or link to one or are you taking O'Really's word?
  • JimTreacher · 8 months ago
    My bad. Nobody on the left has ever, ever used "revolution" as a metaphor.
  • chantaka · 8 months ago
    Extremist right wing violence is just a myth. Let's ask the relatives of the following:

    A list, by floor and location, of those killed in the Oklahoma City bombing on April 19, 1995:

    NINTH FLOOR

    Drug Enforcement Administration

    Shelly D. Bland, 25, of Tuttle

    Carrol June "Chip" Fields, 48, Guthrie

    Rona Linn Kuehner-Chafey, 35, Oklahoma City

    Carrie Ann Lenz, 26, Chotaw

    Kenneth Glenn McCullough, 36, Edmond

    U.S. Secret Service

    Cynthia L. Brown, 26, Oklahoma City

    Donald Ray Leonard, 50, Edmond

    Mickey B. Maroney, 50, Oklahoma City

    Linda G. McKinney, 47, Oklahoma City

    Kathy Lynn Seidl, 39, Bethel

    Alan G. Whicher, 40, Edmond

    EIGHTH FLOOR

    U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development

    Ted L. Allen, 48, Norman

    Peter R. Avillanoza, 56, Oklahoma City

    David Neil Burkett, 47, Oklahoma City

    Donald Earl Burns, Sr., 63, Oklahoma City

    Kimberly Kay Clark, 39, Oklahoma City

    Susan Jane Ferrell, 37, Oklahoma City

    Dr. George Michael Howard, 45, Vallejo, Calif.

    Antonio "Tony" C. Reyes, 55, Edmond

    Lanny Lee David Scroggins, 46, Yukon

    Leora Lee Sells, 57, Oklahoma City

    Jules A. Valdez, 51, Edmond

    David Jack Walker, 54, Edmond

    Michael D. Weaver, 54, Edmond

    Frances "Fran" Ann Williams, 48, Oklahoma City

    Clarence Eugene Wilson, Sr. 49, Oklahoma

    SEVENTH FLOOR

    U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development

    Diane E. (Hollingsworth) Althouse, 45, Edmond

    Andrea Yvette Blanton, 33, Oklahoma City

    Kim R. Cousins, 33, Midwest City

    Diana Lynne Day, 38, Oklahoma City

    Castine Brooks Hearn Deveroux, 49, Oklahoma City

    Judy J. (Froh) Fisher, 45, Oklahoma City

    Linda Louise Florence, 43, Oklahoma City

    J. Colleen Guiles, 59, Oklahoma City

    Thompson Eugene "Gene" Hodges, Jr., 54, Norman

    Ann Kreymborg, 57, Oklahoma City

    Teresa Lea Taylor Lauderdale, 41, Shawnee

    Mary Leasure-Rentie, 39, Bethany

    James A. McCarthy II, 53, Edmond

    Betsy J. (Beebe) McGonnell, 47, Norman

    Patricia Ann Nix, 47, Edmond

    Terry Smith Rees, 41, Midwest City

    John Thomas Stewart, 51, Oklahoma City

    John Karl Van Ess III, 67, Chickasha

    Jo Ann Whittenberg, 35, Oklahoma City

    SIXTH FLOOR

    U.S. Marine Corps Recruiting

    Sgt. Benjamin LaRanzo Davis, USMC, 29, Edmond

    Capt. Randolph A. Guzman, USMC, 28, Castro Valley, Calif.

    FIFTH FLOOR

    U.S. Department of Agriculture

    Olen Burl Bloomer, 61, Moore

    James E. Boles, 50, Oklahoma City

    Dr. Margaret L. "Peggy" Clark, 42, Chickasha

    Richard "Dick" Cummins, 55, Mustang

    Doris "Adele" Higginbottom, 44, Oklahoma City

    Carole Sue Khalil, 50, Oklahoma City

    Rheta Bender Long, 60, Oklahoma City

    U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development

    Paul Gregory Beatty Broxterman, 42, Edmond

    U.S. Customs Office

    Paul D. Ice, 42, Midwest City

    Claude Authur Medearis, S.S.A., 41, Norman

    FOURTH FLOOR

    U.S. Department of Transportation/Federal Highway

    Lucio Aleman, Jr., 33, Oklahoma City

    Mark Allen Bolte, 28, Oklahoma City

    Michael Carrillo, 44, Oklahoma City

    Larry James Jones, 46. Yukon

    James K. Martin, 34, Oklahoma City

    Ronota Ann Newberry-Woodbridge, 31, Edmond

    Jerry Lee Parker, 45, Norman

    Michelle A. Reeder, 33, Oklahoma City

    Rick L. Tomlin, 46, Piedmont

    Johnny Allen Wade, 42, Edmond

    John A. Youngblood, 52, Yukon

    U.S. Army Recruiting Battalion

    Sgt. 1st Class Lola Bolden, U.S. Army, 40, Birmingham, Ala.

    Karen Gist Carr, 32, Midwest City

    Peggy Louise Holland, 37, Oklahoma City

    John C. Moss III., 50, Oklahoma City

    Victoria (Vickey) L. Sohn, 36, Moore

    Dolores (Dee) Stratton, 51, Moore

    Kayla Marie Titsworth, 3.50, Lawton

    Wanda Lee Watkins, 49, Oklahoma City

    THIRD FLOOR

    Defense Security Service

    Harley Richard Cottingham, 46, Oklahoma City

    Peter L. DeMaster, 44, Oklahoma City

    Norma "Jean" Johnson, 62, Oklahoma City

    Larry L. Turner, 42, Oklahoma City

    Robert G. Westberry, 57, Oklahoma City

    Federal Employees Credit Union

    Woodrow Clifford "Woody" Brady, 41, Oklahoma City

    Kimberly Ruth Burgess, 29, Oklahoma City

    Kathy A. Finley, 44, Yukon

    Jamie (Fialkowski) Genzer, 32, Wellston

    Sheila R. Gigger-Driver, 28, Oklahoma City

    Linda Coleen Housley, 53, Oklahoma City

    Robbin Ann Huff, 37, Bethany

    Christi Yolanda Jenkins, 32, Edmond

    Alvin J. Justes, 54, Oklahoma City

    Valerie Jo Koelsch, 33, Oklahoma City

    Kathy Cagle Leinen, 47, Oklahoma City

    Claudette (Duke) Meek, 43, Oklahoma City

    Frankie Ann Merrell, 23, Oklahoma City

    Jill Diane Randolph, 27, Oklahoma City

    Claudine Ritter, 48, Oklahoma City

    Christy Rosas, 22, Moore

    Sonja Lynn Sanders, 27, Moore

    Karan Howell Shepherd, 27, Moore

    Victoria Jeanette Texter, 37, Oklahoma City

    Virginia M. Thompson, 56, El Reno

    Tresia Jo "Mathes" Worton, 28, Oklahoma City

    SECOND FLOOR

    America's Kids Child Development Center

    Baylee Almon, 1, Oklahoma City

    Danielle Nicole Bell, 15 months, Oklahoma City

    Zachary Taylor Chavez, 3, Oklahoma City

    Dana LeAnne Cooper, 24, Moore

    Anthony Christopher Cooper II, 2, Moore

    Antonio Ansara Cooper Jr., 6 months, Midwest City

    Aaron M. Coverdale, 5.50, Oklahoma City

    Elijah S. Coverdale, 2.50, Oklahoma City

    Jaci Rae Coyne, 14 months, Moore

    Brenda Faye Daniels, 42, Oklahoma City

    Taylor Santoi Eaves, 8 months, Midwest City

    Tevin D'Aundrae Garrett, 16 months, Midwest City

    Kevin "Lee" Gottshall II, 6 months, Norman

    Wanda Lee Howell, 34, Spencer

    Blake Ryan Kennedy, 1.50, Amber

    Dominique Ravae (Johnson)-London, 2, Oklahoma City

    Chase Dalton Smith, 3, Oklahoma City

    Colton Wade Smith, 2, Oklahoma City

    VISITOR

    Scott D. Williams, 24, Tuttle

    FIRST FLOOR

    Social Security Administration

    Teresa Antionette Alexander, 33, Oklahoma City

    Richard A. Allen, 46, Oklahoma City

    Pamela Cleveland Argo, 36, Oklahoma City

    Saundra G. (Sandy) Avery, 34, Midwest City

    Calvin Battle, 62, Oklahoma City

    Peola Battle, 56, Oklahoma City

    Oleta C. Biddy, 54, Tuttle

    Casandra Kay Booker, 25, Oklahoma City

    Carol Louise Bowers, 53, Yukon

    Peachlyn Bradley, 3, Oklahoma City

    Gabreon D.L. Bruce, 3 months, Oklahoma City

    Katherine Louise Cregan, 60, Oklahoma City

    Ashley Megan Eckles, 4, Guthrie

    Don Fritzler, 64, Oklahoma City

    Mary Anne Fritzler, 57, Oklahoma City

    Laura Jane Garrison, 61, Oklahoma City

    Margaret Betterton Goodson, 54, Oklahoma City

    Ethel L. Griffin, 55, Edmond

    Cheryl E. Hammon, 44, Oklahoma City

    Ronald Vernon Harding, Sr., 55, Oklahoma City

    Thomas Lynn Hawthorne, Sr., 52, Choctaw

    Dr. Charles E. Hurlburt, 73, Oklahoma City

    Jean Nutting Hurlburt, 67, Oklahoma City

    Raymond "Lee" Johnson, 59, Oklahoma City

    LaKesha Richardson Levy, 21, Midwest City

    Aurelia Donna Luster, 43, Guthrie

    Robert Lee Luster, Jr., 45, Guthrie

    Rev. Gilbert X. Martinez, 35, Oklahoma City

    Cartney J. McRaven, 19, Midwest City

    Derwin W. Miller, 27, Oklahoma City

    Eula Leigh Mitchell, 64, Oklahoma City

    Emilio Tapia, 50, Oklahoma City

    Charlotte Andrea Lewis Thomas, 43, Oklahoma City

    Michael George Thompson, 47, Yukon

    LaRue A. Treanor, 55, Guthrie

    Luther H. Treanor, 61, Guthrie

    Robert N. Walker, Jr., 52, Oklahoma City

    Julie Marie Welch, 23, Oklahoma City

    W. Stephen Williams, 42, Cashion

    Sharon Louise Wood-Chesnut, 47, Oklahoma City

    General Services Administration

    Steven Douglas Curry, 44, Norman

    Michael L. Loudenslager, 48, Harrah

    THOSE KILLED IN SURROUNDING AREA

    Rescue Worker

    Rebecca Needham Anderson, 37, Midwest City

    Athenian Building (Job Corps)

    Anita Christine Hightower, 27, Oklahoma City

    Kathryn Elizabeth Ridley, 24, Oklahoma City

    Oklahoma Water Resources Board Building

    Robert N. Chipman, 51, Edmond

    Trudy Jean Rigney, 31, Midwest City
  • JimTreacher · 8 months ago
    Is this the part where I'm supposed to retort by listing the victims of the Unabomber?
  • (: Tom :) · 8 months ago
    No - this is the part where you're supposed to have this thing called a conscience, and feel some sort of remorse for engaging in more rhetoric to create a situation where we will potentially have more Oklahoma City type right wing extremist domestic terrorism. As well as, maybe, growing up and not making this into a pissing contest about who killed who (besides conflating things and turning the unabomber into a left wing nut. So many bullsh!t Republican't slime and deflect tactics, so few words...) and trying to, you know, do something to prevent people from thinking it's okay to kill one another because of their political ideology, instead of adding fuel to the fire.

    But go ahead and toss another "retort" on, distort the liberal point of view, and maybe throw in some personal, racial, or homosexual insults while you're pissing on the graves of the OklaCity bombing victims. Good job showing us all what the typical Republican't gasbag does when he gets his hands on the Rush Limbaugh Republican't Field Operations manual.

    Keep digging up, stupid!
  • Jim Treacher · 8 months ago
    I can only defer to someone of your obvious rationality, adherence to facts, and most of all, civility. Have a great day!
  • R R white knights grassroots . · 8 months ago
    Too all you feel good bone heads that cant see the forest trhough the trees.. "TOM" will take your hand and lead you to the SOCIALIST USSA.PROMISE LAND... AND PROMISE YOU THE WORLD WILL BE OK ... WHILE OSSOMA OBAHMA TAKES ALL YOUR RIGHTS AWAY FROM YOU AND ELIMINATES YOUR INCOMES SAVINGS & RETIREMENTS BECOZ YOU WILL BE PAYING IT ALL TO TAXES.!!!!!!!!!! OH AND LETS NOT FORGET THE FACT THAT THE LIBERAL LEFT WING RADICALS ARE ALSO GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS AND PROTECT YOU FROM CRIME AND ANY HARM THAT MAY COME YOUR WAY.!!! AND REWRITE THE CONSTITUTION AND REMOVE ALL YOUR CIVIL LIBERTIES. WAKE UP BONE HEADS BEFORE IT TOO LATE.!!!!!!!!!!!!. JUST FOLLOW THE PATH OF LIES OSSOMA OBAHMA 'S CAMPAIGN LIES. AND WAKE THE HELL UP ,, TO ALL THE STUPID PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR THIS MUSLIM RADICAL DRUG HEAD.!!!!!! YOU SHOULD BE ASSHAMED OF YOUR ACTIONS.!!!!!!!!!! http://tinyurl.com/cmxanz
  • Palli · 8 months ago
    Do I actually think the protesters want to overthrow the government? No, of course not.
    You're sure?