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The Washington Independent: McCain Advisers Freaked Out by Al Qaeda Preference for McCain

  • rmwarnick · 1 year ago
    Joe The Terrorist backs McCain. Except his name isn't really Joe (it's Muhammad) and there is some question about whether he is actually a licensed terrorist.
  • aarrgghh · 1 year ago
    ftw!
  • Sam50FL · 1 year ago
    LMAO
  • bubba · 1 year ago
    What kind of fucking idiots speak of al Qaeda using rhetoric like "in its heart of hearts" and of a jihadi blogger “not speaking from his heart"? Because they are people too. They have feelings.

    Or do these assholes know what al Qaeda really wants, deep down? Kinda like the boobs on CNN know who my Waffle House waitress really wants to vote for?

    I think in its heart of hearts al Qaeda really wants every kid in the world to have a furry, cuddly puppy!
    That's why we must kill all puppies.
  • m2 · 1 year ago
    awesome
  • feckless · 1 year ago
    Funny McCain trusts Osama when he says that Iraq is the central war on terror.

    Why doesn't McCain trust Osama when he says he wants republicans to stay in power?
  • Peter Audrain · 1 year ago
    "In its heart of hearts"? That's his standard of analysis?

    It's simply awful that this man used to run the C.I.A. I knew he believed in some strange, discredited theories surrounding the first World Trade Center bombing--but talk about a wishful way of interpreting inconvenient evidence! Yech.
  • grassroot · 1 year ago
    I find Al Queda's "bleed to bankruptcy" strategy completely credible, becuase they have consistently claimed credit (with some justification) for destroying the U.S.S.R. that way, bogging it down and bleeding it dry in Afghanistan.

    Of course that was completely different because we were on Bin Laden's side then....
  • asl · 1 year ago
    That Al Qaeda would want to support US policies that makes the Afghan war winnable for the Taliban and them is ludicrous! Or pay-for-the-war policies that accelerated the demise of the financial ponzi scheme? Crazy talk!
  • Jay Ballou · 1 year ago
    I'll add a <snark> tag for you, asl, because some people don't get sarcasm.
  • lestatdelc · 1 year ago
    Yeah because al Qaeda sure didn't draw any lessons form the Russian invasion of Afghanistan. This nitwit was actually in charge of the CIA? That is what is truly ludicrous.
  • Howie Kurtznot · 1 year ago
    Awesome post, especially the (apt) description of Woolsey. Context matters.
  • Jane Burkett · 1 year ago
    It continues to amaze me how many Republicans can read minds. First Rush, now Woolsey.

    Maybe they should start a biz: Clairvoyants R US
  • bacalove · 1 year ago
    A Barack Obama Presidency would not be in Iraq fighting a Mythical Al Qyada because Al Qyada is in Afghanistan where a Barack Obama would place his efforts!
  • logorrhea · 1 year ago
    They CAN NOT discuss why Al Qaeda might want McCain to win because that discussion inevitably leads to the conclusion that their entire approach, i.e. fighting wars to fight terrorism, exacerbates the problem instead of solving it. The question is whether they're deliberately spinning or whether they believe their own crap.
  • WhoSane · 1 year ago
    Amazing to think that an idjut like Woolsey was Director of the CIA, and can't, or won't, figure out simple stuff like this.
  • Dianne · 1 year ago
    Next time we have an election, let's save ourselves the hassle & place the public funds for running for President into social security and let the media and celebs choose our next President as they are trying to do this election.

    The press & mainstream media is so biased for Obama, the chosen one, it is embarrassing. Anything that sounds negative about Obama quickly disappears and anything about McCain or Palin is headlined in the most negative manner possible. It is like high school bullies all over again. I cannot imagine how frustrating this is for McCain. No matter what he does, he is portrayed in a negative manner by the press & media.
  • Verbalobe · 1 year ago
    Okay, if it is considered ludicrous that Al-Qaeda might prefer McCain, what would Al-Qaeda prefer? Obama? And why? Or do we suppose they have no preference? If so, why? Have you read the writings of Bin-Laden? Have you read Fisk, Brzezinski, other recent historians of the middle east?

    Honestly, the blatant lack of (apparent) introspection on the part of conservatives is both appalling and unsurprising.
  • Jay Ballou · 1 year ago
    C'mon, Dianne, in your heart of hearts you don't believe a word you wrote. Because no one can be THAT stupid.
  • RileyJ5 · 1 year ago
    Hey Dianne, Did you ever stop to the think that the things being said in the media are true and FACT based?
  • Kelley · 1 year ago
    Propaganda...
  • wagonjak · 1 year ago
    If it were Obama who got the nod from Al Qaeda, this would be the lead in all cable news stories, and picked up by the major papers, just like last election...

    I'm surprised they didn't back O this time...McCain will certainly be better fodder for the anti-Americanism in the Middle East and the rest of the world.
  • AlphaLiberal · 1 year ago
    Thank you for using the apt term "bellicose" to describe Republican/McCain foreign policy approaches. This term is too seldom used. I also suggest "belligerent."

    Then there's "primitive" and like terms.
  • blader · 1 year ago
    If we come to find out Bill Ayers wrote the AQ McCain endorsement, somebodies is gonna be awful mad at the Negro.
  • Johnbo · 1 year ago
    Dianne, you clueless twit, you've drunk the kool-aid that Faux News and the like have handed out about how our main stream, corporate media is actually "librul".

    You might click on the highlighted phrase "as the CIA eventually concluded" in the third paragraph of the story above and go to a detailed analysis, for just one of MANY possible examples, of how that "librul" media ignored blatant proof of the many lies of the Bush Administration and, consequentially, failed us miserably. In case you're wondering, yes, it's the SAME "librul" media that you're so upset about.

    As for McNasty and the Barracuda, I could give you a DOZEN storiesof Palin's corruption to McNasty's past associations that the MSM has failed to pursue.

    Where are the headline stories about McNasty's links (he sat on their board) with the terrorist-supporting group, the U.S. Council for World Freedom, that did an end run around Congress to support the Contras in Central America. You remember them; death squads, nuns and priests killed for doing nothing more than try and help the poor (Archbishop Romero of El Salavdor killed as he said mass), links to a network of former Nazis, etc? How about his long-running friendship with G. Gordon Liddy? You remember him, right? Famously gave instructions over right-wing rant radio on how to kill federal firearms agents.

    Speaking of associations, how about Palin and her husband's support for the Alaska Independence Party whose founder, Joe Vogler, once famously said, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America and her damned institutions." They wanted Alaska to succeed from the U.S. Vogler refused to be buried in the U.S.

    How about Palin't religious fundamentalism which would infer that she believes in the "end times"? A legitimate question given the possible influence that might have on her approach to the Middle East.

    I could go on, but you get the point. Or, do you?
  • Guy B. Jones · 1 year ago
    Al-Qaeda would love to have a reactionary hothead like McCain elected president, who could be easily duped and provoked into rash and ill-conceived military misadventures like our current one in Iraq. All the better to increase the national debt and weaken our country economically. History has proven time and time again that overextended military occupations and out-of-control military spending doom empires to eventual collapse. It happened with Rome and the Soviet Union, and it will happen with the U.S. of A. unless we get this ship steered in the right direction. McCain is like an old, ill-tempered dog who doesn't think things through and barks at everything that pisses him off, including the mailman...
  • Charles · 1 year ago
    The claim makes total sense. The Bush Administration has been the gift that keeps on giving to Al-Qaida: a strong recruitment and motivator for would-be jihadists.

    Bush administration has cultivated a new generation of terrorists with every one that gets killed.

    An Obama administration will drain the swamp of polarization and hate on which Al-Qaida thrives.
  • Sean Pace · 1 year ago
    From now on, whenever I come across some wacko spouting their ridiculous smears about Obama, all I'm gonna say is "Al-Qaeda endorsed John McCain".
    That's it, and I'll say it over and over. This is the only kind of political discussion the right understands; a single, short sentence repeated ad infinitum. No more reasoned debate, no more pleas for civility, no more being careful with the facts. Just hit them over the head with the Al-Qaeda endorsement over and over and over until they shut up and go away.
  • James Garland · 1 year ago
    Wow Sean, seems Al-Qaeda's endorsment worked perfect on you,
    Jimi G
  • Peter Principle · 1 year ago
    Well, if the story is right, I imagine we can expect more direct evidence -- such as an Obama endorsement video -- to surface pretty soon.

    "We're ready for your close up now, Sheikh bin Ladin."
  • vahana · 1 year ago
    Hi, Dianne,

    Maybe the media isn't running negative reporting on Obama because there's not much negative to report. After all, when media make stuff up and we find out, we blame the media for not doing their job: think Judith Mitchell at the New York Times and all the water she carried for the Bush administration to convince us that war in Iraq was justified.

    Don't blame Obama and his supporters for McCain's and Palin's follies in making their negatives so blatant. Who, after all, would claim to represent the middle class when all he has known is a life of wealth and privilege? Who would claim to be running an ethical campaign after putting into place the exact same personnel and tactics that smeared his far more honorable, year 2000 candidacy?

    Who would call herself the new hope for American feminism after enforcing a policy, as mayor, of charging rape victims (mostly, if not all, women) the costs of the forensic kits (up to $1200 each) used to gather evidence in their cases? Who would claim to be vindicated of abuse of power allegations by an ethics investigation that concluded she had, as governor, abused her power by actively seeking--and allowing her unelected husband to pressure state officials--to fire her ex-brother-in-law? Is it that she is corrupt, or can she not read? After reading about Palin's income tax shenanigans--claiming over $21K of travel reimbursement for minor children who were not traveling on state business, as Alaskan law requires for travel reimbursement; claiming per diem from taxpayers for nights spent in her own home; not claiming travel reimbursement as income on her federal forms--most reasonable people would conclude the woman is corrupt, a tax cheat. Now we learn she has received $150K in clothing gifts from the RNC: how much do you want to bet she will neglect to declare the value of these gifts on her tax forms next year? Why, oh why, would anyone look at this woman and conclude, "There's the role model I want my daughter to follow"? What happened to living with integrity--making one's deeds match one's words--and following the law, yes, even the tax code to pay one's fair share?

    Obama is certainly no messiah, but he has the virtue of integrity. His entire career has been dedicated to elevating the living conditions and social power of those less fortunate. If doing so has brought him into contact with people who espouse radical ideas, he has nonetheless remained unimpressed by those ideas: please notice that Obama is not the candidate out there singing "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran" or anybody else, no matter what he might have heard from Reverend Wright or "washed up terrorist" (McCain quote) Bill Ayers. In fact, Obama has condemned the violent ideas espoused by both men, and the fact that you don't trust his word on this says far more about you than it does him.

    Yes, you're right about one thing: it's exactly like high-school bullies all over again, but it's the bullies of the right wing that are smearing Obama with lies and innuendos about his supposed "unAmerican" and "anti-American" character and policies. There is no credible evidence to support claims that Obama is a Muslim or an Arab or a terrorist while there is plenty of documentation to show that McCain has changed his positions on taxation and other issues and that his political stances, as revealed by his votes in Senate, more often support the George W. Bush agenda than they oppose it. McCain's campaign practices the politics of character assassination by raising unfounding concerns about Obama's character, but you are more charitably concerned about how McCain feels about Democratic challenges to his policy proposals that benefit the economy's supply side to the detriment of workers and consumers whose demand for products and services is the real engine of economic progress. Yes, you're showing that you understand bullying (NOT).

    Fine, you don't want to vote for Obama: please be my guest and vote for anyone you wish. But at least use facts, not right-wing myth or wishful thinking or misinformation or rumor or gossip or smears or lies, to support your choice. We have rights in this country to informed opinions, not half-assed ones. It's your responsibility to improve yourself.
  • That Dude · 1 year ago
    Al Qaeda wants Seccessionist Sarah in Washington so that when Alaska gains independence they can move right in to Wasilla.

    AIP = Al Qaeda of America
  • Xanthippas · 1 year ago
    Bin Laden did try to help Bush out in 2004, and some on the right might try to argue that by endorsing McCain these jihadists are actually trying to pull a bin Laden double-reverse and boost Obama instead, like Woolsey says.. What matters though is where the message is coming from. Bin Laden's tape was political theater, whereas these messages on jihadist websites are presumably these guys speaking in what they believe to be a forum where they can express themselves bluntly because the only people reading are other jihadists. If they say they want McCain to be President, that's what they really want, and the logic is painfully obvious.
  • Jay Ballou · 1 year ago
    Republicans are such pathetic hypocrites. In 2004 they told us that Al Qaeda wanted John Kerry to win, and that's why we had to vote for Bush. They tell us that Obama is friends with terrorists and that's why we must vote for McCain. But actually, the terrorists want John McCain for President. If they wanted Obama, the Republicans would be telling us that shows that Obama is bad for America. Well, John McCain and Sarah Palin ARE bad for America, and that's exactly why the terrorists want them to win.

    Do good for America -- vote Obama/Biden.
  • Arran · 1 year ago
    "Palls around" with "washed-up terrorists"
    - or -
    endorsed by Al Qaeda, the real deal

    note the lack of quotes on that second option.
  • plane · 1 year ago
    Why does anyone beleive what Al Qaeda says? In 2004, their rhetoric against John Kerry was clearly designed to benefit George Bush's re-election and continue his policies. How can we now use this news of their apparent endorsement of McCain to help Obama? Republicans who wish to distance themselves from Bush can say Al Qaeda's endorsement is just another head fake.
  • Scott · 1 year ago
    Because this isn't official, but instead a discussion of what they though was a secure forum over how they might help McCain win.
  • vicweast · 1 year ago
    The notion that a radical anti-American group would prefer to have McCain as President is consistent with their oft stated desire to provoke us in ways that strengthen Al Qaeda. You may believe that we have Al Qaeda "on the run", but what we have really succeeded in doing to that extreme Islamic group is to force them into a de-centralized mode via metastasization. With many heads, and many cells, Al Qaeda is a harder target today then when we had them in our sights in Afghanistan in 2001.

    The argument over who Al Qaeda supports in the US election is completely absurd and beneath the dignity of ANY candidate. You will learn a good deal about the candidates if in fact they even address this absurd notion.

    The ONLY related issue for American voters should be -- What have the candidates said and actually done toward addressing Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and latter in Pakistan???

    I do not think McCain's record is one that evidences effectiveness in that regard.

    Note I did not mention Iraq -- which had ZERO Al Qaeda before the US action there. If we wanted to draw Bin Laden into Iraq, I would say that would have been a fantasy.

    Anyway this is a crazy phase of the McCain campaign -- amazingly inept campaign, and it is interesting that without substantial issues and ideas in his OWN campaign his campaign really only revolves AROUND Obama's. Parsing your opponents words, lying about their words, these are the tactics of an idea-bankrupt candidate. McCain was a hero, but he is certainly not a hero in how he is conducting his empty suited campaign.
  • Edward P. · 1 year ago
    Mccain graduated fifth from the bottom of his class.A roommate of his said that all he wanted to do was party and not study.It was so bad that he almost died when he crashed a plane in the ocean and did not even know enough to pull the canopy explosion device to be able to get out of the plane.He was shot down in Vietnam because he was such a subpar pilot.His only saving grace WAS that he did not go home when his father the admiral put pressure on the N.Vietnamese to let him go.He probably was hallucinogenic.
  • vicweast · 1 year ago
    It would have been cool if McCain had ANY substantial issues to talk about during his campaign.

    He apparently did not, since he spent most of his time flinging mud and misquoting and misunderstanding and misrepresenting Obama.

    I used to be a Republican, I am an Independent who supports Obama.

    I remain puzzled by the extreme and nasty views of anyone. In that regard, Palin killed any notion I may have had that McCain would make a reasonable President. I no longer believe that is possible given the evidence of he past several months.

    On he other hand, Obama is reasoned and has largely run a campaign based on substantial ideas and integrity (although he pushed the envelope as candidate seem to). Te contrast between McCain and Obama could not have become starker in the past month alone. Obama is the statesman, McCain the loose cannon Senator who is best off when there are 99 other Senators balancing his weird uncle act.
  • vicweast · 1 year ago
    The best thing the US press can do is to ignore Al Quaeda's statements. They are beneath our dignity as a nation.
  • YourMomIsBelowOurDignity · 1 year ago
    Have you seen what's on American TV? Between political attack ads, celebrity "news," and belligerent talk show hosts, very few statements seem below our dignity as a nation.
  • Edward P. · 1 year ago
    We have no dignity,pride,control,or intelligence. We are puppets to power mongers i.e. Big Business,Big Oil,Big Agribusiness.!!
  • Mike · 1 year ago
    It is very easy to see why Al Qaeda might wish to support McCain. 4 more year of Bush's policies will do more to destroy the USA than any terrorist bomb.
  • rls · 1 year ago
    re: the American public will keep falling for this sort of misdirection by the same blinkered analysts who blundered the U.S. into Iraq in the first place...

    That would be Colin Powell, right?
  • Noha · 1 year ago
    I wonder who they really want to win... they get more power if McCain wins, if they actually believe what they're doing is right, they would probably want Obama to win. Doesn't influence me but its an interesting question. Its hard to tell nowadays which organizations are real and which ones are in it for the power.
  • Michael Compton · 1 year ago
    "That would be Colin Powell, right?"

    lol - I KNEW as soon as he endorsed BHO the rightwingers would finally hold him accountable for the BS of the pre-war propaganda. You wingnuts are so laughably predictable in your total lack of integrity and intellectual honesty. While obviously you never will be - you really ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
  • am · 1 year ago
    While I agree that it is beneath us to consider statements from Al Qaeda.

    I do think Al Qaeda thrives on the image of an injust, toturing, corrupt, overzealous, ignorant US government. Bush gave us that.

    A smarter more consiliatory... less impressionable.. more unifying government that would increase its allies instead of scaring them away would cause Al Qaeda a lot of harm. In fact, some speculate that the whole attack on the Twin Towers was to illicit a US response to get Al Qaeda on the map (as it clearly did).

    Now McCain is surrounding himself w/Bush clones (Palin for example). It would make sense that Al Qaeda would love more of Bush. Bush has done waaaay more terrorism promotion and weakening of the US position world wide (Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia, all US traditional allies are now hanging out w/Iran and Cuba) than any president possibly could.

    Of course, one may also argue that it is just reverse psychology.
  • gerard pawling · 1 year ago
    what would jesus do?
  • Edward P. · 1 year ago
    Mccain is a friend of war.He is also a fool.We broke the "Iron Curtain" by bleeding the Soviet Union dry on a competition of weapons.It happened to us in Vietnam and it happened to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan and beyond.This country needs to mind it's P's and Q's in Africa as well.The new front is with China in Africa and we don't need to war all over the world.We are not the world's police and have no business telling other countries what they should do.Mind our own business and develope renewable energy and grow strong .