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Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Marc — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 11:01:25 -0000

What I found most astonishing about last night's presidential debate was when asked who would you pick for Secretary of the Treasury... (excuse me while I use some idiotic right wing anecdotes) McWalkingCane responded... Warren Buffet! A staunch OBAMA support and MAJOR critic of the Bushwack tax cuts!!! http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0306-01...

Talk about AMAZINGLY inconsistent!!!!!!!

That answer forever ended any respect I had for McCain.... it makes no sense, it flies in the face of everything he has been saying about taxes!

This isn't a flip flop, it's dementia!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 07:37:28 -0000

DID EVERYBODY NOTICE THAT AFTER THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT (A DEBATE OBAMA CLEARLY WON) MCCAIN RAN OUT OF THERE LIKE "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE" . ALSO MCCAIN HAD TROUBLE LOOKING INTO THE QUESTIONERS EYES (ESPECIALLY THE BLACK QUESTIONERS) . THEN THE MCCAIN CAMP IMEDIATELY STARTED WHINNING THAT THE DEBATE WAS UNFAIR TO THEM. IT WAS UNFAIR BECAUSE OBAMA CAN THINK ON HIS FEET AND MCCAIN CAN'T! MCCAIN'S STUPIDITY ON THE ISSUES REALLY SHINED LAST NIGHT. HE LOOKED CREEPY HOVERING BEHIND OBAMA AS OBAMA SPOKE. MCCAIN ALSO LOOKED OLD AND FEEBLE. MAYBE FOR THE NEXT DEBATE MCCAIN CAN BRING LIEBERMAN OR HIS PICK (FOR TREASURY SECRETARY PHIL GRAHAM) TO DO THE THINKING FOR HIM OR AT LEAST THEY CAN CORRECT HIM OR WHISPER THE ANSWER IN HIS EAR. LIKE THEY DO ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
ARE MCCAIN AND LIEBERMAN LOVERS? AGAIN WHEN YOU SAW THE FEEBLE MCCAIN SHUFFLING ACROSS THE STAGE---YOU ARE REMINDED OF A SCARRY THOUGHT---- " THE PIG IN LIPSTICK" WOULD ONLY BE A HEARTBEAT AWAY. ALSO THE CRIMINAL UNREPENTANT DRUG ADDICT ADULTERESS CINDY MCCAIN WOULD BE THE FIRST LADY OR WOULD THAT BE JOE LIEBERMAN!!!!!!!!!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:14:38 -0000

McCAIN IS AS CORRUPT AS HE IS OLD!!!!!

McCAIN/PALIN= DUMB & DUMBER

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:21:08 -0000

MCCAIN'S PROPOSED MEDICAL PROGRAM CALLS FOR ALL THE OPIATE DRUGS CINDY MCCAIN CHOOSES TO SWALLOW AT NO COST TO THEM. THE TAXPAYER WILL PAY FOR IT!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:16:46 -0000

WHER IN THE NAME OF GOD DO YOU GET YOUR IFORMATION?

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:11:39 -0000

ON FOX NEWS THEY RUN WITH MCCAIN AND PALIN'S REMARK THAT OBAMA PALS AROUND WITH TERRORISTS.AT A MCCAIN RALLY AN AUDIENCE MEMBER SHOUTS TAHT OBAMA IS A TERRORIST AND THE DOLT MCCAIN DOES NOT REPUDIATE IT. AT THE "PIG IN LIPSTICK" RALLY THEY ESPOUSE KILIING EITHER AYERS OR OBAMA. WHAT IS NOT MENTIONED BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN THAT JOHN MCCAIN PALS AROUND WITH A KNOWN PRESCIPTION DRUG ADDICT NAMELY CINDY MCCAIN. SHE RAPED AND PILAGED HER OWN FOUNDATION FOR ALL THE OPIATE PRESCRIPTION SHE COULD GET HER HANDS ON. AND THE DOCTOR IN CHARGE OF THE FOUNDATION WAS AN ACCOMPLICE. HE PRESCRIBED OPIATE PILLS IN THE NAME OF FOUNDATION WORKER AND GAVE THEM TO CINDY "THE ADDICT MCCAIN" SHE STILL LOOKS LIKE SHE IS ABUSING PRESCRITON OPIATE DRUGS. OR SHE MAY BE DRINKING A LOT OF BUDWISER. THOSE EYES ARE ALL SCREWED UP! FUNNY YOU REALLY DON'T HEAR THE DEMOCRATS BRING THAT KIND OF STUFF UP UNTIL THEY ARE ATTACKED FIRST?

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:00:54 -0000

STEVIE ARE YOU FOX NEWS?

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:58:18 -0000

MICHAEL SAYS OBAMA ROCKS!!!!!!!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:56:24 -0000

STEVIE BOY YOU CAN TELL ALL YOUR FACTS COME FROM FOX NEWS. BILL ORIELY DOES YOUR THINKING FOR YOU AND HANITY FEEDS YOUR VENOM. YOUR STUPIDITY SHOWS! CAN YOU COME UP WITH AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT OF YOUR OWN? WHAT JIBBERISH IS FOX PUSHING TODAY? AND IN YOUR WORLD I'LL BET PRISONER OF WAR MCCAIN IS LEADIND IN THE POLLS AND "THE PIG IN LIPSTICK IS SMART".

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 14:38:35 -0000

MCCAIN IS AN ANGRY VENGEFUL MAN PALIN IS ALSO VENGEFUL. HE IS CORRUPT PALIN SHOWS ALL SIGNS OF BEING AT LEAST CORRUPTABLE. MCCAIN IS STUPID PALIN IS OVERLY STUPID. MCCAIN WAS A PRISONER PALIN IS KEEPING HER PREGNANT DAUGHTER'S SPERM DONER A POLITICAL PRISONER. MCCAIN WAS INVESTIGATED PALIN IS GETTING INVESTIGATED. MCCAIN IS MARRIED TO AN IDIOT PALIN IS MARRIED TO AN IDIOT. MCCAIN IS FEEBLE PALIN IS MORE THAN FEEBLE. MCCAIN NEEDS LEIBERMAN TO THINK FOR HIM PALIN NEEDS HELP THINKING. MCCAIN WAS A PRISONER OF WAR THAT QUALIFIES HIM TO BE PRESIDENT PALIN CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE THAT QUALIFIES HER TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE SOUND CHOICES!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Rose — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:40:48 -0000

you are totally ignorant... it's sad

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Ruth — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:12:04 -0000

Superb comment.

I believe that usually anyhting that funny is way exagerated. But this correct AND very funny!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Craftsman — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:59:16 -0000

Apples to Apples, not Republican to Democrat. How do the Candidates really compare?
I've always felt that due to my moral conviction and religious views that I need to side with Republicans and most of the time I couldn't stand the Democrats who ran for President. But this time in our nations history this time economic disaster in the financial market we all must seriously look at the candidates and see just what kind of leader we will be getting. Take away your republican views disregard that you have been a democrat all your life and lets look at these two for who they are, what the stand for, do they know what we as everyday Americans need. Are they willing to talk about our problems and are they if they don’t have a solution willing to do what it takes to figure one out. What does their choices for VP and other people around them say about their judgments.
On the Rep. side you have a man that claims first to be a maverick. That he will shake up Washington. He is more experienced then his opposite. He knows more about war due to his record and time spent in military. He knows that we need to keep troops in Iraq to whatever extent it takes. That he will cut porkbarrel spending and that helping companies with tax breaks should help stimulate our economy. Please help me if I am wrong but that is about all I have gotten from McCain on issues. Where is the plan for real economic change in our country, where is the plan for real education reform, health care, and is there anything more substantial then drill baby drill in an energy plan. What about his pick for VP you may like her you may think she’s pretty you may even think its cute that she says stuff like “you betcha, Joe six pack, soccer mom, etc” and some may say that proves she can relate she is one of us. I didn’t finish college sad to say and I wouldn’t ever claim to be that smart but even I don’t talk like that and I sure don’t want someone nicknamed Joe six pack running the country I live in. People say oh we don’t want that guy he’s to educated. Wake up people and be serious with your self for a minute. If we are really truthful with our selves we should not only want but demand someone that could be president of our country to be smarter then the average guy!! Does drinking a six pack of beer with your buddies or even being a soccer mom qualify anyone to say run a company, let alone run our country???
You can’t completely judge a person by their associations but it they choose then agree with and support those they have around them regardless of what that person does or says you must wonder about that person’s competency to choose good leaders and advisers. Its time we base our decisions more on education and knowledge, and how a person reacts under fire, how they handle criticism and crisis, things of that nature tend to show the true character of a person rather then if they are Rep. or Dem. What I think one really has to be majorly concerned about this time is not only does the Rep. ticket not seem to have any tangible plans that will better us as a nations from what we have been doing the last 5-6 years, but instead of trying to figure something out they have tried to throw out any hail Mary they can to distract us from our real issues. Why would someone who is suppose to be our best choice for the Presidency do anything and everything to take away from the real issues that we face instead of trying to find solutions. On top of all that now it is to be a smear Campaign. There is nothing wrong with questioning legitimate issues, if you feel your ideas are better then the next guy then go after him on that show us why your plans are better, but to just smear your opposite because you have nothing else is despicable, down right pathetic, and unfortunately nothing more then politics as usual. So much for the change we need. All of us as republicans regardless of our views should find this unacceptable.

I’ve been a republican way of thinking individual my whole life but I have to admit this time that is not what is going to be best for our country. We have to look at both sides and get over ourselves and say what does the other guy offer because what is being offered by McCain/Palin just isn’t anything substantial and it is just simply not enough that they are the republican choice! Obama, what a name, and yes he is part black, he went to Harvard, and graduated top of his class, to intellectual some would say, just been in the senate a few years, so we have someone to smart but not enough experience besides he’s a democrat and way to liberal they say! If you stop there as to many with closed mines or bigotry will do then of course you wouldn’t want to give this guy a change. Besides he has had questionable associations too! And that is true, but we need to have a full comparison of apple to apples, has Obama supported or continued to agree with his questionable associations after they were proven to be so, no. He denounced then. What about his character traits, not those wild accusations on the internet but ones we can see. He shows calmness and rational thinking. You may not agree with his thinking all of the time and his calmness has even been criticized for lack of connection to everyday people or elitism but do we really want to go their in comparison to the rep. Ticket, rational thinking, calmness under pressure, in touch, elitism… I don’t think so. What about his choices for VP and those around him. As Rep. we may thing Joe Bidden has different views from our way of thinking but when you put the two VP up against each other and you really look at both of them being President well views or no views Palin might be nicer to look at but the competency to run the country falls to Joe Bidden not Joe six pack. So many aren’t willing to look at Obama enough to know what his plans are for our country and if you do you may not agree with all off his views, I don’t, but the point is he has plans and is working on creating more plans. He has plans to lower taxes for most of us, he has plans and is working on plans for energy renewal that isn’t just more oil. He wants to end the war in Iraq as soon as it can safely be ended, education reform, he seems to really care about healthcare especially for children. One can look on the Obama website for more, but the real point issue is regardless if you agree with him on most of his views or not he is a man who has shown that he has the desire and character to make our country better through his actions. Have we seen Obama strike out or back at McCain of course but when you put these 2 candidates, or 4 of them however you want to look at it, the Obama/Bidden ticket has substance, capability, knowledge, ideas and there just isn’t enough from the McCain/Palin ticket to compare to. With what our country is facing today in the economic disaster we have to deal with in weighing the 2 tickets just being Republican doesn't tip the scales enough to make the difference! If we are really truthful with ourselves we know that the President of the United States doesn’t have to be a know it all. He doesn’t have to have experience in all things but probably what should be the deciding factor that tips the scales one way or the other would be, first the candidates desire for bettering our nation and secondly rational calm thinking that is willing to work with and listen to those around him who might actually have a better ideas or a solution to the problem that the President himself hadn’t thought of. If you look just solely at their actions disregard the party label and just evaluate the person and how they have conducted themselves over the course of this election what you find is that Obama shows the character traits of what a good leader could be with the right people to support him, and unfortunately McCain has shown traits of someone who will do anything or try any means to gain what he wants.
THE CHOICE IS OURS!!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

rt — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:49:07 -0000

Hi all,

I am French, not American. So, in Europe, we think that Obama is the best candidat. Mc Cain is very dangerous for economy, business, peace...
With Mc Cain for president, USA will isolate more and more because it's totaly incompetent! He thinks just to develop his personal bank account.

So Obama is the best choice to exit of crisis

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Mel — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:30:06 -0000

John McCain is an adulterous liar who graduated almost at the very bottom of his class (bottom 4 I believe) at the Naval Academy which he probably only got into because of his daddy and grandfather being admirals. Oh wait, isn't that how the current King George II (or as I like to call him, baby bush) got into Yale? As a Legacy?
I am sick of McCain flogging his "oh poor me, I was a prisoner of war" crap all the time. He is like that crazy old uncle at thanksgiving who bores everybody with his war experiences for attention. Yeah, we get it, he suffered, shut up already.
He is an admitted adulterer who took bribes from Keating and the u.s. taxpayer bailed him out. If he didn't have all of his adulterous slut's money (oh wait, he married her after dumping his wife who was badly injured in a car wreck so that makes it okay right?) he would be OUT of the senate like the other four of the Keating 5.
He was corrupt them and he is corrupt now. It is an insult to American womanhood that he picked that brainless bimbo Palin for his running mate. It just shows that republicans only pick women that they would want to have sex with, not who can do the job. Also, wrongful termination is wrongful termination and "Troopergate" is a legitimate investigation over her firing someone not because he did a bad job, but because he wouldn't fire a state trooper who was divorcing her sister. That is just the kind of corruption republicans are known for.
I agree that if McSame/Paleo-intelligence bimbo get elected it will be our own darn faults, but then I don't actually believe that Baby bush won the last two elections. there was enough voter fraud in his brother's state in 2000 and in Ohio in 2004 to make that an open question still.
Maybe the republicans can get their pal bin Ladin to blow up a building so he can win? I wouldn't put it past them. they can't seem to find and kill the guy but then the Saudis own the Bush family and wouldn't want one of their favorite sons to actually be held accountable for 911.

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:18:17 -0000

WHAT ARE MCCAIN'S QUALIFICATIONS TO BE PRESIDENT? THAT HE WAS PRISONER OF WAR? HE GOT CAUGHT BECAUSE HE WAS HOTSHOTING. JUST ANOTHER CASE OF BAD JUDGEMENT! HE IS A HOTHEAD! HE HAS ALWAYS SHOWED POOR JUDGEMENT! PALIN "THE PIG IN LIPSTICK" IS ONE OF HIS POOREST JUDGEMENTS TO DATE. HE IS DEVIOUS AND EVIL. HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO BE THE STEWARD OF OUR ECONOMY! HE IS CORRUPT! SOME FACTS ABOUT THE KEATING MCCAIN & GLENN WERE LET OFF EASY BECAUSE THEY HAD THE" MANTLE OF HERO". MCCAIN WAS IN BED WITH KEATING MORE OFTEN THAN ANY OF THE OTHER FOUR. THE ONLY OTHER CHARACTER IN THAT SCANDAL THAT PROSTITUTED HIMSELF MORE WAS NEAL BUSH, SON OF GEORGE H.W. AND BROTHER OF GEORGE W. THIS SEEMS TO BE FORGOTEN! IT WAS EVEN SPECULATED THAT THE FIRST GULF WAR WAS IMPLEMENTED TO TAKE FOCUS OFF THE KEATING SCANDAL THUS NEAL BUSH! "CLASSIC WAG THE DOG". THESE LATEST EXECUTIVE BRANCH REPUBLICANS ARE VERY ARROGANT. THEY ARE WILLING TO WALK ALL OVER THE CONSTITUTION FOR A CHANCE AT MORE POWER. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Rochelle — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:33:30 -0000

I think that there was a much bigger reason why John McCain cancelled his campaign to go back to Washington. I think that he had some very private meetings and knew very well what caused the Wall Street crises. I think that he came back to make sure that the beans were not spilled. Someone should look into what his current dealings are in regards to Wall Street and these failed banks. I bet you could find something that relates to his past dealings.

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Marc — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:51:03 -0000

Great article, and yet another example of the hypocrisy rampant in the republican party.

When Bill Clinton was targeting Osama Bin Laden, Republicans were targeting a little white stain. (as if that had ANYTHING to do with the economy, security, or common sense!) The Clinton/Lewinsky issue was a persecution, NOT a prosecution, designed for republicans, by republicans to gain power. It was a national travesty.... a waste of time, tax dollars, and focus on real issues.... hmm, kinda like the McCain campaign!

When Bush was giving tax cuts to the the stinking rich, AND companies like Exxon, struggling Americans were losing their homes. (and you people on the right, PLEASE show me ONE thread of REAL evidence that giving tax breaks to the wealthiest 1% created jobs.... go ahead, find it! MUCH of that saved money went into investments that are now going belly up - as well as luxury yachts, massive estates, and lear jets. Hardly a good thing for the working middle class!) This idea that giving tax breaks to the wealthiest creates jobs is pure fantasy... and one of the last myths the right stands on.

The republican party USED to stand for smaller, simpler government and lower taxes. Today, it is simply the party of hypocrites. For the most part, they claim to be good Christians, but their actions - including I would say - their ardent support for the largest killers, and drug pushers, the tobacco companies, and their trickle down, voodoo economics, which are now taking their toll an MILLIONS of working class Americans, it would seem the Anti-Christ HAS arrived.

Maybe Palin CAN lead by example - she was once exorcised.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmp_S9YSKJ8 Maybe after the resounding defeat this Fall, ALL republicans can follow her lead - it seems the entire party needs it!

The entire Republican Party DESERVES to be ousted... they have lost ALL credibility.... and

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

KOUAMA — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:47:13 -0000

It is so good when somebody gives his point of view about presidential election in USA. I only suggest, why not give the chance to the one who can solve the economics problem. I ask to those who want the bright furure of America to vote for Mr. OBAMA

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

delta1 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:45:41 -0000

Thou shall not commet Adultry, Oh excuse me that was mc cain . but you cant vote for oboma because he was 8 years old during the veitnam war area and protest aginst that war. i dont beleive in making some one qulty by ass and i do beleive when oboma meet the man he was a professor in a collage. not a terrorist but a past war protestor! and yes i am old enough to remember it unlike you.

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

itsaboy6 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:41:10 -0000

she is a vengeful bitch---maybe i should watch fox they are fair and balanced---she never ran anything when she was mayor she hired a city manager to make her decisions and brought him with her to the office of gov.---she is a puppet who can't think for herself word must be put in her mouth---i would like to know what you republicans really think about mccain & palin when you are alone with your thoughts---if you are smartr you must shudder!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

art — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:32:39 -0000

If you force mark to market in the midst of a financial crisis you also accelerate the meltdown. So arguing against mark to market in the heat of a crisis is the CORRECT position at the time. It is more prudent to wait until the crisis dissapates before changing to mark to market. “We are witnessing an unprecedented situation as banks and investors try to determine the appropriate value of the assets they are holding,” McCain said, “and there is widespread concern that this [mark-to-market] approach is exacerbating the credit crunch.” Delaying mark to market accounting is the CORRECT POSITION and Black apparantly does NOT understand market dynamics.

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

janet — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:03:43 -0000

Same old thing: Figures don't lie, but liars can figure......accounting practices need to follow GAAP for all institutions. This is the very faith of our economic system.

It appears to me that McCain's lack of judgement goes well beyond his VP choice!!!

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Laurenegade27 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:55:36 -0000

I sincerely hope that the Democratic party does not lie down and roll over for John McCain and the Republicans, like they did in the last two elections to Bush. There is finally some real political discourse in this country, and it would be a shame to hand the government over to the likes of the fiscally irresponsible and double-talking John McCain. Not to mention his sneering cohort Sarah Palin.

"Deregulator" and "Maverick" seem to be the main words in their shared vernacular, and dodging the hard questions the main tactic in their shared strategy. Democrats, now is the time to attack-- it is not the time to play polite. Obama and Biden need to up the ante and call out McCain/Palin on a national stage- the Presidential debates. Tomorrow night would be a good start.

Re: Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

steve — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:34:31 -0000

Answered your own question there Franklin, He didn't have that much to do with it , that was punishable ,as did the demos involved ,4 wasn't it? Was there prison time here too? You do know that if there was any juice stuff, the CNN's would be all over it . They are so even handed......