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Did McCain Learn From the S&L Crisis?

Started by washingtonindependent · 9 months ago

The GOP presidential nominee's role in the Keating Five scandal raises questions about his fitness to handle Wall Street's meltdown. ... Continue reading »

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  • One thread to every article I read about John McCain is that he consistently makes poor decisions and then spends valuable time cleaning up after himself. This is not a quality that I want in a leader of this country.
  • When am I ever going to read about McCain's role in the S & L/Keating 5 crisis? I guess its that liberal media covering for him again.
  • Answered your own question there Franklin, He didn't have that much to do with it , that was punishable ,as did the demos involved ,4 wasn't it? Was there prison time here too? You do know that if there was any juice stuff, the CNN's would be all over it . They are so even handed......
  • I 've just read this commentary, after following a link from keatingeconomics.com and watching the video.
    So Obama's finally taken off the gloves in this financial crisis the ****'s going to hit the fan on Mon the 6th, should lots of fun and couldn't have come at a better time. This page is going to have alot of hits
  • I'm stunned! How can this man have been allowed to reach this point in a presidential campaign without the media bringing this up? The man is clearly dishonest, clearly!
  • Is this the kind of change McCain is proposing for the next four years? He needs to start with himself.
  • How ironic is McCain's new line: that he is for oversight of our financial institutions. He is a maverick in the Keating scandal in that is was the lone Republican to be reprimanded; and he proves that he can step across party lines by joining with four Democrats to protect their campaign contributor (Keating) over hard working American investors. This is the type of change we need!
  • Hy
    Après lu et visionnée la cassette, je ne comprend toujours pas pourquoi
    les Americains sont toujours Gouvernés par des politiciens qui ont la langue de bois.
    McCain dit qu'il nommera des juges qui appliqueront la constitutions et ensuite ne légiferont pas?
    Alors en clair cela veut dire qu'il interdira le mariage des gay et l'avortement. Le gros problème aux USA
    est que les membres de l'état major qui sont professionnels et grassément payés, ont pour fonction
    de briser l'électorat, de la manipuler d'ou la langue de bois de McCain dans la campagne d'anvergure.
    Toutes ces bétises de 8 ans de pouvoir permettent à certain candidat de demander qu'on vote pour eux. C'est lamentable d'en arriver à ce stade pour le pays le plus puissant du monde. Qu'est qui va se passer le 4 novembre et bien nous le savons tous la même chose que Bush avait fait à Algore
    la triche; rien que la triche les appareils seront truqués.
    Alors ce message est pour Mr Obama : les Américains en ont marrent des mansonges de leurs lideurs, vous êtes économiste alors que faites-vous?
    retrossez vos manches et dites aux electeurs que vous donnerez le meilleure de vous même lorsque vous serez élu; rappeler aux americains qui sont vos électeurs que vous defendez l'Amerique, vous êtes un peuple actuelllement dans le pétrain; mais que vous restez fort. L'union fait la force
    Que votre débat soit bref,clair, et précis si vous donnez toujours raison à McCain so pourquoi
    vous vous battez pour le changement
    djenet
  • I TRANSLATED THE FRENCH COMMENT 4U:

    After reading and viewing the tape, I still do not understand why the Americans are still governed by politicians who waffle. McCain said he will appoint judges who apply the Constitution and then do not legislate? So this means clear that prohibit gay marriage and abortion. The big problem is that the U.S. members of the staff are professional and highly paid, are designed to break the electorate, the handle or wooden language in the McCain campaign anvergure. All these bétises 8 years to allow some candidates to request a vote for them. It is lamentable to reach this stage for the most powerful country in the world. What is going to happen on November 4 and we all know the same thing that Bush had to Algor cheating; nothing but cheating devices will be rigged. So this message is for Mr Obama: Americans have marrent of mansonges their lideurs you economist then what do you do? retrossez your sleeves and tell voters that give you the best of you even when you're elected; reminded Americans who are your constituents that you defend America, you are a people actuelllement in pétrain, but you stay strong. Unity is strength May your debate to be short, clear and accurate if you always give reason why McCain so you beat djenet for change
  • it is unbelievable that the american media could hide such a story. I just got the link from the keatingseconomics.com. it is unbelievable that this story has been kept away from major media outlets that we read in the internet
  • I certainly agree with Kay, but would add one thing: not only does he spend valuable time cleaning up after himself, he spends billions of taxpayer dollars to do the clean up. This man seems to have no ability to see the broader picture of anything. He and his running mate are two of the most dangerous people ever nominated for their jobs. Unfortunately they are supported by many other people who also lack the capacity to see the broad picture of economics, war, health care, etc, etc, etc. Heaven help us if they make it into the White House. (If they do, I'm going to live under a bridge in Canada!)
  • If McCain insists on getting off of issues like economics and health care, what a way to do it. He will spend the rest of the campaign trying to dig out of this one.

    This isn't guilt by association so much as it is guilt by McCain's actions.

    Supposingly no laws broken. But boy, what poor judgment, bad choices. And he's sticking with an ideology the continues to hurt the American people.

    In the words of the great scholar George Walker Bush, the 43rd President of the United States:

    "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.....?.....?.... Can't get fooled again."
  • Lol
  • To my American friends,

    The world asks you to put aside your party loyalties and look at this situation with the attention and seriousness it deserves. McCain is not only lying to you, he's incompetent. And Palin is just plain dangerous because of how little she really knows.

    Bottom line: If you vote Republican, you'll have only yourselves to blame and will have to live with your consequences of your actions.
  • We can not afford all of Obama's promises for votes.

    John McCain, the only Republican in the Keating 5, was only charged forbad judgement of the Keating 5.

    The other four were Democratics, Obama has not written any bill that has make it to the floor for a vote, the only votes Obama handed over for votes were written by others.
  • Only because they did not want to trash two fly boys... bad judgment? I guess Keating paying for his buddy Johns vacations & inviting Johns wife in for an "Inside Investment" was bad judgment where you are from but I call it just plain breaking the law, but then again the law is not for the ruling party it is just for the rest of us...
  • And he never learned from that bad judgement.. Think about it. By the way you need to do a check on your facts because Obama has done more than you think. Look it up Pat.
  • like what , name one thing SARAH
  • Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
    Crony capitalism, graft, payola, and greed.
    It seems the Me Decade (or the Gilded Age) never ended.
  • Thank you for such a detailed history and explanation of the past Keating S&L situation and its current implications. I've had a hard time understanding why this has not been discussed more openly to inform the public during this critical election time. It is pretty sickening to hear McCain question the judgment of anyone else! Please pass along thanks as well to Dr. Black for his willingness to speak up.
  • OK, so sure, McCain took a hundred grand from this felon Keating, and vacationed with him, and invested with him, and tried to use his political office to help make him richer. But did he ever serve on a charity board with him? Did they live within five miles of each other? And what sort of relationship did they have when McCain was eight years old?
  • KENNY you did leave out a few things here, as does your media friends.
  • STEVIE ARE YOU FOX NEWS?
  • Superb comment.

    I believe that usually anyhting that funny is way exagerated. But this correct AND very funny!
  • mccain and palin are corupt chareters who are desperate---she is a puppet he is dangerous---he blows it out his butt it comes out of her mouth---soon we will see her unethical dealings with the alaskan saftey commissioner come to light---how can the republicans be excited about their ticket---we don't need mavericks we need fresh ideas! i wish you luck i am voting for you
  • Americans need to wake-up, Obama will kill what is still good about the old USA.

    Obama wants to tax nearly everything, including Medical benefits paid for by our employers.

    Obama does not want to re-new the tax cut, this will mean a HUGE tax increase for all of us, BUT Obama does not think of this as a Tax increase. There is not enough super rich to pay for his $1 trillion promises.
  • Get your facts straight. It's McCain that plans to tax your employer-provided health plan, not Obama. Look at their plans at the Kaiser Family Foundation:
    http://www.health08.org/sidebyside_results.cfm?...

    The tax cut that Obama will not renew is the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest, taxes will not be raised for anybody making under $250,000. See this chart from the Washington Post: http://tinyurl.com/5s4l7j

    Try doing some research instead of regurgitating 30 second ads that mean nothing.
  • Pat wrote:
    Pat 38 minutes ago
    Americans need to wake-up, Obama will kill what is still good about the old USA.

    Obama wants to tax nearly everything, including Medical benefits paid for by our employers.

    YOU HAVE IT BACKWARDS PAT, OBAMA DOESN'T WANT TO TAX MEDICAL BENEFITS FROM OUR EMPLOYERS. THAT WOULD BE MCCAIN. ALSO, OBAMA WANTS TO ELIMINATE BUSH'S TAX CUTS FOR THE TOP 1% WHO MAKE $1 MILLION OR MORE. ANYONE MAKING LESS THAT $250,000 A YEAR WILL NOT BE TAXED MORE. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGNT
  • You are wrong OH short sighted lady Joyce, When The money is taken from the EVIL rich , as you might say, What will they use to hire the pool boy and the gardener and the window cleaner and the carpet cleaner and the maid and the boat builder and the auto maker in Detroit and on it goes! How many jobs will joe sixpack create? I'm waiting That's right NONE. And who will get the money taken from THE EVIL RICH? The government personnel. Joyce, you won't be getting a check., unless, yes that's it , you work for the government . And you will be paying MORE for EVERTHING, because THE EVIL RICH are in business and they have to PROFIT to stay in business and to make up for their money being taken from them, they will need to raise prices to stay in business, providing the products and services you need and enjoy. Thou Shall Not Covet Joyce.
  • STEVIE BOY YOU CAN TELL ALL YOUR FACTS COME FROM FOX NEWS. BILL ORIELY DOES YOUR THINKING FOR YOU AND HANITY FEEDS YOUR VENOM. YOUR STUPIDITY SHOWS! CAN YOU COME UP WITH AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT OF YOUR OWN? WHAT JIBBERISH IS FOX PUSHING TODAY? AND IN YOUR WORLD I'LL BET PRISONER OF WAR MCCAIN IS LEADIND IN THE POLLS AND "THE PIG IN LIPSTICK IS SMART".
  • Pat. You should get your IQ checked soon. You definitely have a problem.
  • Hey there john You sound like someone that would be saying the same thing about Obama if he had an R behind his name and McCain had a D. Your one sided media has done a good job of shielding the Obama FACTS from you....
  • Clearly you need to wake up and read the differences between McCains plan and Obamas plan. You need to investigate alot more before shooting such garbage out there.
  • Your reponse to this article is just like McCain! Attack because there is nothing left to do but attack. Get a grip and look at the writing on the wall... McCain and Paulin are horrific choices.
  • WHER IN THE NAME OF GOD DO YOU GET YOUR IFORMATION?
  • MCCAIN'S PROPOSED MEDICAL PROGRAM CALLS FOR ALL THE OPIATE DRUGS CINDY MCCAIN CHOOSES TO SWALLOW AT NO COST TO THEM. THE TAXPAYER WILL PAY FOR IT!
  • hey itsaboy6, Governor Palin can hire and fire that position every week if she wants to. Maybe you should change the channel sometime and learn the facts instead of being spoon fed by CNN.
  • she is a vengeful bitch---maybe i should watch fox they are fair and balanced---she never ran anything when she was mayor she hired a city manager to make her decisions and brought him with her to the office of gov.---she is a puppet who can't think for herself word must be put in her mouth---i would like to know what you republicans really think about mccain & palin when you are alone with your thoughts---if you are smartr you must shudder!
  • just to let you know i am disabled and i am without healthcare / i see the scariness of mccain
  • I have known about the Keating 5 for ages and have been waiting for Obama to bring it up. I'm glad he saved for this point in the campaign. McCain is as dirty as they come--from his personal life to his political life. He treated his first wife horribly and was lucky enough to marry a Barbie doll with $$. His working both sides of the aisle is limited to those only who agree with him. Mario Cuomo states and instance where McCain got so irate during a 'bi-partisan' office meeting that he threw out those who did not agree with him. This is who we want leading our country?? Both he and Palin are 'shoot from the hip', egotists, who only want power. Can't wait until it comes out about her associations with her witch doctor minister. This is another one that visits in Alaska and goes around purging the witchcraft out of people. I really didn't think we could go any lower than Bush-Cheney. I was wrong.
  • In the 80's (Keating and friends really good times) I watched as this band of high living, hard working folks gleafully flew off into the sunset with all my uncle and aunts savings. I do enjoying the way they are trying to tell thier little story now and I hope the rest of the country is smart enough to enjoy it too.
  • The poor judgment of John McCain cannot fix the economic troubles of 2008 . McCain's proven bad judgement cost multi-thousands of people their life savings decades ago. Shall you trust your money to his protection in 2009? Obama may not quickly cure the economy; but McCain will speed us to catastrophe!
  • After reading this piece along with the terrific Rolling Stones article on McCain...it's no wonder his campaign is in shambles. McCain has a history of exercising terrible judgment.--in his personal life as well as his political life. Forget about his qualifications to be president. Why is this man still a United States senator?!!!!
  • After reading this article - -it makes John Mc Cain's recent barage of attacks to tether Barack Obama with criminal's - - like the proverbial tea kettle calling the coffee pot, black...
    John Mc Cain is - -too old, and - -too out of touch to lead this country...Past behaviors coupled with his recent initiatives speak volumes about where we'd end up as a country.. His amnesia is more than selective, and the times are far too critical for this kind of leadership.
  • I lived in AZ during the Keating 5 story. McCain jumped in bed with the elite in AZ almost as fast as he jumped in bed with Cindy. A man like this can not be trusted to be President. His claim of country first echos as hollow as family first, It took him very little time to dump his first wife & family after they stood by him while a prisoner of war. It is clear that money and a pretty girl come first in Johns world. Look how he even dumped senior republican woman for Sarah's "Experience".

    Maybe he really can't remember what he just said a minute before.... or maybe he can find any justification for his decisions... in any event this is not a man of wisdom & principals.
  • After reading the Keating 5 story, I am having doubts about McCain's theme, "Country First." Corruption personified and national hero are incongruent. He is just a glorified national crook.
  • I remember the first time when I looked at Nixon's face when he was elected president, the uneasy feeling in my stomach told me he was not a good man. The above picture of McCain reminds me of similar feeling.
  • I WISH THAT THIS INFORMATION IS SPREAD WORLD WIDE. CHARACTER DOESN'T CHANGE AND PEOPLE NEED TO LOOK AT THE CHARACTER OF MCCAIN. IF MCCAIN WINS ,AMERICA IS DOOMED ESPECIALLY WITH PALIN (GOD FORBID )THE NEXT POSSIBLE VICE PRESIDENT
  • US of A...the one and only super power in this planet earth.When it sneeze everyone gets the cold!pity us peoples from other countries please...elect a president other than the one from keating 5.the joker might be a better option!seriously,you have the so called untested guy who just happen to have more brain being a harvard educated and simply a president of all law students...wow!i sincerely wish i could vote for him.
    God bless America....thanks.
  • How can one man honor his country so diligently while in uniform and then thoughtlessly destroy the economic viability of "average" American investors once he puts on a suit. He was instrumental in our first savings & loan ignominy and hasn't wavered on any of his economically crippling ideologies when it comes to regulation (and taxes). It's almost as if he believes America owes him more than a medal and he will use his position to obtain it by any means necessary. So my question is: Why are people in Arizona still electing this man to the Senate after being a co-conspirator in a scandal that wiped out 20,000 peoples savings and investments eventually costing the rest of America's tax-payers $150b? I accuse Arizona's voters of "Bad Judgment" also. Unbelievable.
  • It is a disgrace that McCain is even a Senator let alone running for the highest office in the country. I have read many of the comments here and agree with his lack of ethics not only professionally but personally. Yet we forget also that Cindy McCain is just as disgraceful with her stealing contributed pain medication to third world countries. At the height of our economic problems this woman stands by McCain dressed in $300k from head to toe? This is being "in touch" with main street?? Seriously it is disgusting. Then add insult to injury with Palin. She represents women of this great country by being totally inept in the basics of running a country, laughs about it and has the audacity to speak one word against Obama? She is under investigation for her own unethical behaviour while being a Govenor for less than 2yrs.. Think of this, less than 2yrs and she is being investigated! Her idiotic babbling is an insult to every women in this country..

    Tre, I am going to Mexico if they get elected, figure if I am homeless the weather is warmer than Canada!!
  • And Obama's Accomplishments are what again? surrounding himself with radical national terrorists and usa haters, and training Acorns intimidation squads to force banks to loan to unqualified people, leading directly to the trillon dollar mess we are in now., bilking foundation funds to support civil disobedience in the Chiago School Districts You are getting your gas because of Palin's negociations with BIG OIL and Canada. But You haven't bothered to look that up have you. Inept that's priceless, You are just jealous she looks like a real woman. Worked her own way up a step at a time. Made real executive decisions, not opinions with no consequences like Obama who mostly missed votes or just voted present as not to show his real stripes and then when he did stand for something picks pulling the feet out first of live babies leaving the head in as to be tech, not born yet and sticking a large needle in the back of their heads and sucking out their brains to kill them. What great judgement. What vision.Thats right take from the rich and give to the middle class, and kill that middle class job so they can then be lower class and then a bigger voting block to take more from the rich job producers that will lay more off and or leave and do business elswhere. great plan Also didn't he claim to be a christian? Thou shall not covet...........Thou shall not kill...... there's more..............
  • Thou shall not commet Adultry, Oh excuse me that was mc cain . but you cant vote for oboma because he was 8 years old during the veitnam war area and protest aginst that war. i dont beleive in making some one qulty by ass and i do beleive when oboma meet the man he was a professor in a collage. not a terrorist but a past war protestor! and yes i am old enough to remember it unlike you.
  • you are totally ignorant... it's sad
  • Thanks for your good, investigative reporting. I remember my horror at the Keating incident in the S&L Crisis, and how McCain tried to do revisionist history in his later campaigns. He can be bought and sold like any Washington Insider, yet he falsely calls himself a maverick. We need to elect Barack Obama for president. It is clear that Mavericks McCain and Palin cannot lead us out of this mess.
  • The Job of America’s CEO and CIC Belongs To Obama

    America deserves to place a cap on what Abraham Lincoln started and then excel from there. Barack Obama is the last man in that relay race. Let's do it America. Vote right! The man is very qualified to handle the job. Do not let anything other than the qualification to do the job right sway you from casting the vote for Obama. Sarah Palin’s face and smile can trick you.

    I was minding my business doing my regular job with my computer. Suddenly this picture of Sarah Palin popped up with the question, “Does Sarah Palin have enough experience?” The picture was just looking at me and I looked at her face and smiles. She nearly smiled my vote out of my hands. Nearly! I can tell you right now—-millions of people will be voting for Sarah because of that face and smiles. They better be careful. America's problems cannot be solved like that. I know how strong I am, but she nearly got me. Then I talked to her in my heart, “My sister, you may not have enough experience but you sure do have enough smile and “gorgeous” face.” Truly, I would have voted for Sarah simply because she is my sister in the Lord. Furthermore, if I do not know any better, her cute face and smile, which temporarily made me forget what I was supposed to type into the google search slot, would have caused me to vote for her. Unfortunately for the beautiful and honorable Governor Palin, Obama-Biden ticket is what the condition of America and the rest of the world needs at this time and for the next 8 years. I love you Palin, but please excuse me this time.

    Fellow Americans, the job of CEO and CIC for USA at these times truly belongs to Mr. no-drama Barack Obama. It's frustrating that many voters seem to not desire to know the truth and they vote on non-issues and one-issue like race, abortion, pretty face, etc. ---To finish reading this go to EmancipationUSA.blogspot.net (it's a long, serious article)
  • The Job of America’s CEO and CIC Belongs To Obama

    America deserves to place a cap on what Abraham Lincoln started and then excel from there. Barack Obama is the last man in that relay race. Let's do it America. Vote right! The man is very qualified to handle the job. Do not let anything other than the qualification to do the job right sway you from casting the vote for Obama. Sarah Palin’s face and smile can trick you.

    I was minding my business doing my regular job with my computer. Suddenly this picture of Sarah Palin popped up with the question, “Does Sarah Palin have enough experience?” The picture was just looking at me and I looked at her face and smiles. She nearly smiled my vote out of my hands. Nearly! I can tell you right now—-millions of people will be voting for Sarah because of that face and smiles. They better be careful. America's problems cannot be solved like that. I know how strong I am, but she nearly got me. Then I talked to her in my heart, “My sister, you may not have enough experience but you sure do have enough smile and “gorgeous” face.” Truly, I would have voted for Sarah simply because she is my sister in the Lord. Furthermore, if I do not know any better, her cute face and smile, which temporarily made me forget what I was supposed to type into the google search slot, would have caused me to vote for her. Unfortunately for the beautiful and honorable Governor Palin, Obama-Biden ticket is what the condition of America and the rest of the world needs at this time and for the next 8 years. I love you Palin, but please excuse me this time.

    Fellow Americans, the job of CEO and CIC for USA at these times truly belongs to Mr. no-drama Barack Obama. It's frustrating that many voters seem to not desire to know the truth and they vote on non-issues and one-issue like race, abortion, pretty face, etc. ---To finish reading this go to EmancipationUSA.blogspot.com (it's a long, serious article)
  • B.O. can deliver a knockout punch at either of the next 2 debates by referencing this article "Did
    Mcain learn anything from the S&L crisis" (NO) and then IDENTIFYING some of the Lobbyists that are running his campaign including their corporate affiliations. Remember it has been established that his Campaign Chairman was still on the "Fannie" payroll within the last 2 months. That's business as usual !!!!!!! That would make Mac Daddy's stomach tight in front of us all.
  • Son of an Admiral, husband of an heiress -- Johnny McCain never grew up.
    You can tell his character has not matured since the 1990 Keating scandal, only 18 years ago.
    People really don't get wiser with age, they just become more of the same type of personality they have always been.
  • B.O. can deliver a knockout punch at either of the next 2 debates by referencing this article "Did
    Mcain learn anything from the S&L crisis" (NO) and then IDENTIFYING some of the Lobbyists that are running his campaign including their corporate affiliations. Remember it has been established that his Campaign Chairman was still on the "Fannie" payroll within the last 2 months. That's business as usual !!!!!!! That would make Mac Daddy's stomach tight in front of us all.

    Somebody mention this to B.O. or his people, please.......I want to see the TRUTH make "Mac Grand Daddy" squirm, don't you??
  • It is evident that many CEOs and those they support in Washington do not understand how to run a business and much less run a country. There are far to many financial crises instigated by a few.
    Mr. Mc Cain wants to be the CEO of the USA and given his track record, he will run it into the ground. Today, the Republicans are in denial. Today you must vote based on who can bring in a team of competent people to help run the country and repair the damage. Now, we know the current administration is busy building roads in foreign countries, tough choice.
  • John Dougherty, thank you for writing this article and giving it the attention it deserves. Most of the major newspapers did not have the courage. Kudos!
  • I sincerely hope that the Democratic party does not lie down and roll over for John McCain and the Republicans, like they did in the last two elections to Bush. There is finally some real political discourse in this country, and it would be a shame to hand the government over to the likes of the fiscally irresponsible and double-talking John McCain. Not to mention his sneering cohort Sarah Palin.

    "Deregulator" and "Maverick" seem to be the main words in their shared vernacular, and dodging the hard questions the main tactic in their shared strategy. Democrats, now is the time to attack-- it is not the time to play polite. Obama and Biden need to up the ante and call out McCain/Palin on a national stage- the Presidential debates. Tomorrow night would be a good start.
  • Same old thing: Figures don't lie, but liars can figure......accounting practices need to follow GAAP for all institutions. This is the very faith of our economic system.

    It appears to me that McCain's lack of judgement goes well beyond his VP choice!!!
  • If you force mark to market in the midst of a financial crisis you also accelerate the meltdown. So arguing against mark to market in the heat of a crisis is the CORRECT position at the time. It is more prudent to wait until the crisis dissapates before changing to mark to market. “We are witnessing an unprecedented situation as banks and investors try to determine the appropriate value of the assets they are holding,” McCain said, “and there is widespread concern that this [mark-to-market] approach is exacerbating the credit crunch.” Delaying mark to market accounting is the CORRECT POSITION and Black apparantly does NOT understand market dynamics.
  • It is so good when somebody gives his point of view about presidential election in USA. I only suggest, why not give the chance to the one who can solve the economics problem. I ask to those who want the bright furure of America to vote for Mr. OBAMA
  • Great article, and yet another example of the hypocrisy rampant in the republican party.

    When Bill Clinton was targeting Osama Bin Laden, Republicans were targeting a little white stain. (as if that had ANYTHING to do with the economy, security, or common sense!) The Clinton/Lewinsky issue was a persecution, NOT a prosecution, designed for republicans, by republicans to gain power. It was a national travesty.... a waste of time, tax dollars, and focus on real issues.... hmm, kinda like the McCain campaign!

    When Bush was giving tax cuts to the the stinking rich, AND companies like Exxon, struggling Americans were losing their homes. (and you people on the right, PLEASE show me ONE thread of REAL evidence that giving tax breaks to the wealthiest 1% created jobs.... go ahead, find it! MUCH of that saved money went into investments that are now going belly up - as well as luxury yachts, massive estates, and lear jets. Hardly a good thing for the working middle class!) This idea that giving tax breaks to the wealthiest creates jobs is pure fantasy... and one of the last myths the right stands on.

    The republican party USED to stand for smaller, simpler government and lower taxes. Today, it is simply the party of hypocrites. For the most part, they claim to be good Christians, but their actions - including I would say - their ardent support for the largest killers, and drug pushers, the tobacco companies, and their trickle down, voodoo economics, which are now taking their toll an MILLIONS of working class Americans, it would seem the Anti-Christ HAS arrived.

    Maybe Palin CAN lead by example - she was once exorcised.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmp_S9YSKJ8 Maybe after the resounding defeat this Fall, ALL republicans can follow her lead - it seems the entire party needs it!

    The entire Republican Party DESERVES to be ousted... they have lost ALL credibility.... and
  • I think that there was a much bigger reason why John McCain cancelled his campaign to go back to Washington. I think that he had some very private meetings and knew very well what caused the Wall Street crises. I think that he came back to make sure that the beans were not spilled. Someone should look into what his current dealings are in regards to Wall Street and these failed banks. I bet you could find something that relates to his past dealings.
  • WHAT ARE MCCAIN'S QUALIFICATIONS TO BE PRESIDENT? THAT HE WAS PRISONER OF WAR? HE GOT CAUGHT BECAUSE HE WAS HOTSHOTING. JUST ANOTHER CASE OF BAD JUDGEMENT! HE IS A HOTHEAD! HE HAS ALWAYS SHOWED POOR JUDGEMENT! PALIN "THE PIG IN LIPSTICK" IS ONE OF HIS POOREST JUDGEMENTS TO DATE. HE IS DEVIOUS AND EVIL. HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO BE THE STEWARD OF OUR ECONOMY! HE IS CORRUPT! SOME FACTS ABOUT THE KEATING MCCAIN & GLENN WERE LET OFF EASY BECAUSE THEY HAD THE" MANTLE OF HERO". MCCAIN WAS IN BED WITH KEATING MORE OFTEN THAN ANY OF THE OTHER FOUR. THE ONLY OTHER CHARACTER IN THAT SCANDAL THAT PROSTITUTED HIMSELF MORE WAS NEAL BUSH, SON OF GEORGE H.W. AND BROTHER OF GEORGE W. THIS SEEMS TO BE FORGOTEN! IT WAS EVEN SPECULATED THAT THE FIRST GULF WAR WAS IMPLEMENTED TO TAKE FOCUS OFF THE KEATING SCANDAL THUS NEAL BUSH! "CLASSIC WAG THE DOG". THESE LATEST EXECUTIVE BRANCH REPUBLICANS ARE VERY ARROGANT. THEY ARE WILLING TO WALK ALL OVER THE CONSTITUTION FOR A CHANCE AT MORE POWER. THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED!!!!
  • John McCain is an adulterous liar who graduated almost at the very bottom of his class (bottom 4 I believe) at the Naval Academy which he probably only got into because of his daddy and grandfather being admirals. Oh wait, isn't that how the current King George II (or as I like to call him, baby bush) got into Yale? As a Legacy?
    I am sick of McCain flogging his "oh poor me, I was a prisoner of war" crap all the time. He is like that crazy old uncle at thanksgiving who bores everybody with his war experiences for attention. Yeah, we get it, he suffered, shut up already.
    He is an admitted adulterer who took bribes from Keating and the u.s. taxpayer bailed him out. If he didn't have all of his adulterous slut's money (oh wait, he married her after dumping his wife who was badly injured in a car wreck so that makes it okay right?) he would be OUT of the senate like the other four of the Keating 5.
    He was corrupt them and he is corrupt now. It is an insult to American womanhood that he picked that brainless bimbo Palin for his running mate. It just shows that republicans only pick women that they would want to have sex with, not who can do the job. Also, wrongful termination is wrongful termination and "Troopergate" is a legitimate investigation over her firing someone not because he did a bad job, but because he wouldn't fire a state trooper who was divorcing her sister. That is just the kind of corruption republicans are known for.
    I agree that if McSame/Paleo-intelligence bimbo get elected it will be our own darn faults, but then I don't actually believe that Baby bush won the last two elections. there was enough voter fraud in his brother's state in 2000 and in Ohio in 2004 to make that an open question still.
    Maybe the republicans can get their pal bin Ladin to blow up a building so he can win? I wouldn't put it past them. they can't seem to find and kill the guy but then the Saudis own the Bush family and wouldn't want one of their favorite sons to actually be held accountable for 911.
  • Hi all,

    I am French, not American. So, in Europe, we think that Obama is the best candidat. Mc Cain is very dangerous for economy, business, peace...
    With Mc Cain for president, USA will isolate more and more because it's totaly incompetent! He thinks just to develop his personal bank account.

    So Obama is the best choice to exit of crisis
  • Apples to Apples, not Republican to Democrat. How do the Candidates really compare?
    I've always felt that due to my moral conviction and religious views that I need to side with Republicans and most of the time I couldn't stand the Democrats who ran for President. But this time in our nations history this time economic disaster in the financial market we all must seriously look at the candidates and see just what kind of leader we will be getting. Take away your republican views disregard that you have been a democrat all your life and lets look at these two for who they are, what the stand for, do they know what we as everyday Americans need. Are they willing to talk about our problems and are they if they don’t have a solution willing to do what it takes to figure one out. What does their choices for VP and other people around them say about their judgments.
    On the Rep. side you have a man that claims first to be a maverick. That he will shake up Washington. He is more experienced then his opposite. He knows more about war due to his record and time spent in military. He knows that we need to keep troops in Iraq to whatever extent it takes. That he will cut porkbarrel spending and that helping companies with tax breaks should help stimulate our economy. Please help me if I am wrong but that is about all I have gotten from McCain on issues. Where is the plan for real economic change in our country, where is the plan for real education reform, health care, and is there anything more substantial then drill baby drill in an energy plan. What about his pick for VP you may like her you may think she’s pretty you may even think its cute that she says stuff like “you betcha, Joe six pack, soccer mom, etc” and some may say that proves she can relate she is one of us. I didn’t finish college sad to say and I wouldn’t ever claim to be that smart but even I don’t talk like that and I sure don’t want someone nicknamed Joe six pack running the country I live in. People say oh we don’t want that guy he’s to educated. Wake up people and be serious with your self for a minute. If we are really truthful with our selves we should not only want but demand someone that could be president of our country to be smarter then the average guy!! Does drinking a six pack of beer with your buddies or even being a soccer mom qualify anyone to say run a company, let alone run our country???
    You can’t completely judge a person by their associations but it they choose then agree with and support those they have around them regardless of what that person does or says you must wonder about that person’s competency to choose good leaders and advisers. Its time we base our decisions more on education and knowledge, and how a person reacts under fire, how they handle criticism and crisis, things of that nature tend to show the true character of a person rather then if they are Rep. or Dem. What I think one really has to be majorly concerned about this time is not only does the Rep. ticket not seem to have any tangible plans that will better us as a nations from what we have been doing the last 5-6 years, but instead of trying to figure something out they have tried to throw out any hail Mary they can to distract us from our real issues. Why would someone who is suppose to be our best choice for the Presidency do anything and everything to take away from the real issues that we face instead of trying to find solutions. On top of all that now it is to be a smear Campaign. There is nothing wrong with questioning legitimate issues, if you feel your ideas are better then the next guy then go after him on that show us why your plans are better, but to just smear your opposite because you have nothing else is despicable, down right pathetic, and unfortunately nothing more then politics as usual. So much for the change we need. All of us as republicans regardless of our views should find this unacceptable.

    I’ve been a republican way of thinking individual my whole life but I have to admit this time that is not what is going to be best for our country. We have to look at both sides and get over ourselves and say what does the other guy offer because what is being offered by McCain/Palin just isn’t anything substantial and it is just simply not enough that they are the republican choice! Obama, what a name, and yes he is part black, he went to Harvard, and graduated top of his class, to intellectual some would say, just been in the senate a few years, so we have someone to smart but not enough experience besides he’s a democrat and way to liberal they say! If you stop there as to many with closed mines or bigotry will do then of course you wouldn’t want to give this guy a change. Besides he has had questionable associations too! And that is true, but we need to have a full comparison of apple to apples, has Obama supported or continued to agree with his questionable associations after they were proven to be so, no. He denounced then. What about his character traits, not those wild accusations on the internet but ones we can see. He shows calmness and rational thinking. You may not agree with his thinking all of the time and his calmness has even been criticized for lack of connection to everyday people or elitism but do we really want to go their in comparison to the rep. Ticket, rational thinking, calmness under pressure, in touch, elitism… I don’t think so. What about his choices for VP and those around him. As Rep. we may thing Joe Bidden has different views from our way of thinking but when you put the two VP up against each other and you really look at both of them being President well views or no views Palin might be nicer to look at but the competency to run the country falls to Joe Bidden not Joe six pack. So many aren’t willing to look at Obama enough to know what his plans are for our country and if you do you may not agree with all off his views, I don’t, but the point is he has plans and is working on creating more plans. He has plans to lower taxes for most of us, he has plans and is working on plans for energy renewal that isn’t just more oil. He wants to end the war in Iraq as soon as it can safely be ended, education reform, he seems to really care about healthcare especially for children. One can look on the Obama website for more, but the real point issue is regardless if you agree with him on most of his views or not he is a man who has shown that he has the desire and character to make our country better through his actions. Have we seen Obama strike out or back at McCain of course but when you put these 2 candidates, or 4 of them however you want to look at it, the Obama/Bidden ticket has substance, capability, knowledge, ideas and there just isn’t enough from the McCain/Palin ticket to compare to. With what our country is facing today in the economic disaster we have to deal with in weighing the 2 tickets just being Republican doesn't tip the scales enough to make the difference! If we are really truthful with ourselves we know that the President of the United States doesn’t have to be a know it all. He doesn’t have to have experience in all things but probably what should be the deciding factor that tips the scales one way or the other would be, first the candidates desire for bettering our nation and secondly rational calm thinking that is willing to work with and listen to those around him who might actually have a better ideas or a solution to the problem that the President himself hadn’t thought of. If you look just solely at their actions disregard the party label and just evaluate the person and how they have conducted themselves over the course of this election what you find is that Obama shows the character traits of what a good leader could be with the right people to support him, and unfortunately McCain has shown traits of someone who will do anything or try any means to gain what he wants.
    THE CHOICE IS OURS!!
  • MCCAIN IS AN ANGRY VENGEFUL MAN PALIN IS ALSO VENGEFUL. HE IS CORRUPT PALIN SHOWS ALL SIGNS OF BEING AT LEAST CORRUPTABLE. MCCAIN IS STUPID PALIN IS OVERLY STUPID. MCCAIN WAS A PRISONER PALIN IS KEEPING HER PREGNANT DAUGHTER'S SPERM DONER A POLITICAL PRISONER. MCCAIN WAS INVESTIGATED PALIN IS GETTING INVESTIGATED. MCCAIN IS MARRIED TO AN IDIOT PALIN IS MARRIED TO AN IDIOT. MCCAIN IS FEEBLE PALIN IS MORE THAN FEEBLE. MCCAIN NEEDS LEIBERMAN TO THINK FOR HIM PALIN NEEDS HELP THINKING. MCCAIN WAS A PRISONER OF WAR THAT QUALIFIES HIM TO BE PRESIDENT PALIN CAN SEE RUSSIA FROM HER HOUSE THAT QUALIFIES HER TO BE VICE PRESIDENT. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES. THANK GOODNESS WE HAVE SOUND CHOICES!
  • MICHAEL SAYS OBAMA ROCKS!!!!!!!
  • ON FOX NEWS THEY RUN WITH MCCAIN AND PALIN'S REMARK THAT OBAMA PALS AROUND WITH TERRORISTS.AT A MCCAIN RALLY AN AUDIENCE MEMBER SHOUTS TAHT OBAMA IS A TERRORIST AND THE DOLT MCCAIN DOES NOT REPUDIATE IT. AT THE "PIG IN LIPSTICK" RALLY THEY ESPOUSE KILIING EITHER AYERS OR OBAMA. WHAT IS NOT MENTIONED BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN THAT JOHN MCCAIN PALS AROUND WITH A KNOWN PRESCIPTION DRUG ADDICT NAMELY CINDY MCCAIN. SHE RAPED AND PILAGED HER OWN FOUNDATION FOR ALL THE OPIATE PRESCRIPTION SHE COULD GET HER HANDS ON. AND THE DOCTOR IN CHARGE OF THE FOUNDATION WAS AN ACCOMPLICE. HE PRESCRIBED OPIATE PILLS IN THE NAME OF FOUNDATION WORKER AND GAVE THEM TO CINDY "THE ADDICT MCCAIN" SHE STILL LOOKS LIKE SHE IS ABUSING PRESCRITON OPIATE DRUGS. OR SHE MAY BE DRINKING A LOT OF BUDWISER. THOSE EYES ARE ALL SCREWED UP! FUNNY YOU REALLY DON'T HEAR THE DEMOCRATS BRING THAT KIND OF STUFF UP UNTIL THEY ARE ATTACKED FIRST?
  • McCAIN IS AS CORRUPT AS HE IS OLD!!!!!

    McCAIN/PALIN= DUMB & DUMBER
  • DID EVERYBODY NOTICE THAT AFTER THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT (A DEBATE OBAMA CLEARLY WON) MCCAIN RAN OUT OF THERE LIKE "LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE" . ALSO MCCAIN HAD TROUBLE LOOKING INTO THE QUESTIONERS EYES (ESPECIALLY THE BLACK QUESTIONERS) . THEN THE MCCAIN CAMP IMEDIATELY STARTED WHINNING THAT THE DEBATE WAS UNFAIR TO THEM. IT WAS UNFAIR BECAUSE OBAMA CAN THINK ON HIS FEET AND MCCAIN CAN'T! MCCAIN'S STUPIDITY ON THE ISSUES REALLY SHINED LAST NIGHT. HE LOOKED CREEPY HOVERING BEHIND OBAMA AS OBAMA SPOKE. MCCAIN ALSO LOOKED OLD AND FEEBLE. MAYBE FOR THE NEXT DEBATE MCCAIN CAN BRING LIEBERMAN OR HIS PICK (FOR TREASURY SECRETARY PHIL GRAHAM) TO DO THE THINKING FOR HIM OR AT LEAST THEY CAN CORRECT HIM OR WHISPER THE ANSWER IN HIS EAR. LIKE THEY DO ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
    ARE MCCAIN AND LIEBERMAN LOVERS? AGAIN WHEN YOU SAW THE FEEBLE MCCAIN SHUFFLING ACROSS THE STAGE---YOU ARE REMINDED OF A SCARRY THOUGHT---- " THE PIG IN LIPSTICK" WOULD ONLY BE A HEARTBEAT AWAY. ALSO THE CRIMINAL UNREPENTANT DRUG ADDICT ADULTERESS CINDY MCCAIN WOULD BE THE FIRST LADY OR WOULD THAT BE JOE LIEBERMAN!!!!!!!!!
  • What I found most astonishing about last night's presidential debate was when asked who would you pick for Secretary of the Treasury... (excuse me while I use some idiotic right wing anecdotes) McWalkingCane responded... Warren Buffet! A staunch OBAMA support and MAJOR critic of the Bushwack tax cuts!!! http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0306-01...

    Talk about AMAZINGLY inconsistent!!!!!!!

    That answer forever ended any respect I had for McCain.... it makes no sense, it flies in the face of everything he has been saying about taxes!

    This isn't a flip flop, it's dementia!

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