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Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Progressive From Oregon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:29:26 -0000

how about you actually cite a reference for this long held urban myth

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/206969_dead...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_c...

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Progressive From Oregon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:57:50 -0000

He has united and rallied a long silent and disconnected portion of the country; then multiple generations demoralized by the pardon of Nixon.

"Obama used this in Kenya" whatever you mean with by this should be backed up with some proof. Otherwise it is worthless.

'Internet information without validation is vapor-mation'

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Progressive From Oregon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:54:21 -0000

Got any proof there have been any convictions?

"Yes: students are only allowed to register at their legal residence, which for out of state residents is typically parents"

Incorrect according to a 1997 Supreme Court ruling -
http://supreme.justia.com/us/439/1105/case.html

"And since many places no longer require verification of ID, a person can multiply register using two names or addresses"

Misleading and untruthful. Your statement implies that ID was once necessary. Not true. It has been a recent push by the Failure Party to require ID fueled by their false claims of voter fraud that has caused ID to now be required. http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/view/41...

"Internet information without validation is vapor-mation"

Sorry, Mr Pete, you are wrong.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Progressive From Oregon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:32:31 -0000

How about a source for the claim of fradulent donations.

"Internet information without validation is vapor-mation"

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

ProFromOregon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:30:14 -0000

how much you betting, 'cause I'll take as much of that bet as you got the guts for. If you notice during the CNN segment, they were sketchy about the process of coming up with the results they reported. They say they saw a high percentage false registrations.

After hearing how ACORN manages the issue of registrations they are unable to validate. I learned they divide them into a 'suspect' pile to make it easier for the election board to then check on.

It sounds like the reporter 'sneeked a peak' of a pile without permission and it turned out to be the 'suspect' pile.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

robert howell — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:32:02 -0000

The only thing that will save the voters from the lawyers is a clear victory for one side or the other.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

double w — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 00:41:16 -0000

It would be easier to have a republican plant inside the company filing bogus forms to get the company in trouble than it would be to have hundreds of thousands of dedicated fake voters, all armed with fake IDs, driving across their states in order to win them. The republican version of the conspiracy falls apart under it's own logistical weight.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

kris — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:38:56 -0000

Funny thing ,I felt last night while watching the story that there must be dirty politics behind it ( Mc Cain) and dirty republicans. Now my "feelings" were right. Cnn must come out and tell the truth who really is behind again trying to get Senator Obama and regurlaly smear democrats name throuhg the mud.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Robert Rohrer — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 18:02:21 -0000

well, where is that acorn rep? - i guarantee you the media would love to do a press release interview - if you ask me, their still trying to think of what possibly they can say to cover up this scandal

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Las Vegan — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 16:37:24 -0000

Idiots, even if you don't have ID, you have to be registered to begin with, and in most areas you have to sign your signature and have it matched to the rolls on voting day. If you think it's so easy to vote more than once, then why don't you try it? God knows the Republicans are going to need any help they can get come November 4.

Secondly, have any of you fracks been to Las Vegas from mid-April to mid October? It's hotter than a Republican seeing the presidency slipping away. It's not right what the workers did, but I understand why they'd make up names in a cool library instead of earning their pay. What it comes down to is that ACORN has been consistently trying to be above board, informing state officials of discrepancies as soon as they find out, for over a year, yet the Republican officials essentially do nothing until now? Why would ACORN in any shape or form condone any type of fraud when it would only hurt the integrity of their organization? Please spare me your indignation over the fraud.

Keep in mind that this ACORN incident pales in comparison to the actual voter disenfranchisement that happened in Vegas back in 2004 or 2006. I don't remember the particulars, but a company with fairly extensive Republican and conservative ties would register people to vote under the impression of being a non-partisan organization, but then they would take registrations of Democrats and throw them away. These weren't made up people, but actual citizens disenfranchised for partisan power purposes.

Thirdly, most of you would want the baby thrown out with the bath water. Of course you would, because you don't believe in democratic principles of all citizens getting a vote. But I digress. What is more harmful: correcting this "wrong" by invalidating all the registrations of this organization, or disenfranchising thousands and thousands of citizens from voter rolls because a few hundred non-existent people are listed (who will non-existently "vote" come election day)? Keep in mind that people of all parties were registered by this organization--it wasn't a partisan effort. If poor people and minorites happen to lean Democrat, it is only a reflection of inequitable Republican policies.

Finally, you geniuses need to realize you're in the age of computers. It is a lot easier to commit fraud hacking the computer systems of the voting machines than trying to have some conspiracy of registering several hundred non-existent voters. It's the turn of the century, all right, but you're 100 years behind. Americans need to be more worried about practically untraceable system hacking that UC scientists have uncovered and demonstrated. Guess who has deep ties to the companies that deploy the electronic voting systems. Jesus I detest feckless fools with no sense of citizenship and fair play, only caring if their "team" wins (as if all this were just some NFL game, rah rah). You have no integrity.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Agust — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:57:55 -0000

Actually the way they do it in Chicago is register thousands of bogus names to one address, then send in an absentee ballot request for each one. Vote and mail them back in. No ID needed because the postal service no longer looks at names, they just deliver to the address.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

ncp — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:53:28 -0000

Question: There have been voter registration drives since the civil rights movement started back when. How is it that there can be so many unregistered voters STILL out there?! If you count young, first time voters and newly naturalized citizens, how many can that be and how does that translate to actual voting on election day? This is assuming, of course, that anyone older than, say, college age, is already registered and has been for at least one presidential election cycle.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Macktn — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:50:56 -0000

Having once worked for Acorn, I can say with the utmost confidence that what's b eing printed in the media about the organization is completely false. Yes, Acorn registers a lot of people using primarily college students and other people who go out everyday and for hours walk neighborhoods, knock on doors, talk about Acorn, talk about issues in the neighborhoods, ask for donations, and register voters. Their people give the registration cards to the potential voter who fill them out. It's up to the door knocker to check for accuracy & completeness. Or sometimes the door knocker will fill it out if the target voter's language skills are shaky. They get paid .10 for each new voter.

CNN is outrageous. Why not interview someone from Acorn?

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

John — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:30:12 -0000

Obama Pays $961,000 For Half-Hour Ad... Is this coming out of the 3.5 million dollars of fradulant foreign contributions?

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

tmac — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:23:57 -0000

I say shut AHOLE down now and then throw out the entire lot of registrations. I'd bet that only 10% of them are worth their weight in dung anyway.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:22:09 -0000

"Once again, CNN and the Republican operatives neglect to mention this: Even if thousands of ACORN workers register thousands of non-existent voters... those non-existent people are NOT showing up to vote on election day. "

Who says? With Democrats fighting to ensure that IDs are not required to vote, those "non-existent people" may very well be voting.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

tmac — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:22:09 -0000

Daphne, are you retarded? Many of these "fake" voters were allowed to do instant voting. Now do you understand the concern? Quit drinking the kool-aid.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

MrPete — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:21:27 -0000

Guess who pays "non-partisan" ACORN to register voters? WE DO. So we're shelling out big bucks for registrations that game the system.

Do invalid registrations game the system? Yes: students are only allowed to register at their legal residence, which for out of state residents is typically parents. And since many places no longer require verification of ID, a person can multiply register using two names or addresses... and get away with it.

Is it happening? YES. We're already seeing convictions.

Sorry, Daphne, you blew it.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Matt Hudson — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:20:21 -0000

"You people just never get it, if someone registers as Donald Duck, nobody named Donald Duck is going to vote."
Are you serious?! I have personally seen local elections in which persons inhabiting the local cemetery were listed as actually voting! Now, if your assertion holds true then those voters actually rose from the dead to exercise their voting privileges. Or, the alternative is that SOMEONE ELSE voted in their name. Which is the more rational explanation, in your opinion?

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Rob — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:15:20 -0000

I think Todd was being facetious.

I hope.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

John — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:14:44 -0000

The Media is slowly admitting to the truth, Obama is corrupt and not trust worthy. Slowly America will open its eyes. Not everyone can be racist, Obama used this in Kenya it did not work there and it will not work in the United States. I can not believe he divided this Country to try to win the election.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Nick Wallace — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:14:14 -0000

Todd: By saying absolutely ridiculous things like "Obama is the King", you make my argument for me.
Sincere thanks :-)

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Rob — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:12:50 -0000

And, with this kind of shenanigans, they'll probably be right.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

Rob — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:12:05 -0000

Again, irresponsibility with the public trust (if that's as far as this goes) is STILL unacceptable.

Re: CNN Blatantly Mis-reports on ACORN

ThePhotogsBlog — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:10:45 -0000

CNN is to journalism what McDonalds is to cuisine; fast, sloppily assembled, full of garbage.