DISQUS

motherofgloom · 1 year ago

Reading this article put me in a rage, You just want Obama to do the right thing!!!!!!! How dare you tell him the right thing to do. Just answer me this if John McCain is elected because people like this infantile woman will vote against their own interests for spite, will she be a happy camper then? It is because of women like this that I changed my vote midstream for Hillary to Obama .
She is trying to blackmail Obama into choosing Hillary as his v.p. with money. It disgusts me. Why doesn't she hold her breath stamp her feet and turn blue if she doesn't get her way. My 2 year old did it all the time. Then you could all wait till 2008 to stop a war, get universal health care, a good public school system, etc. plus most important of all, what will she do if dear old John picks a supreme court nominee who will be against a womens right to choose, and actively beginning to try to overturn Roe vs. Wade because in the next 4 years there will almost certainly have to be another supreme court judge chosen. How bout that!!!! Will you be satisfied then?

debby4hill · 1 year ago

As one who has spent a lifetime working in the media as a broadcaster/producer and on-air talent, I was and remain distraught by how Hillary Clinton was treated both in print and by the electronic media. While droves of Obama fans swooned at his feet, his stump rhetoric was full of empty but convincing promises. I say convincing because as an on-air talent myself, I recognized that his camera persona and stage demeanor would propel him forward. But I found his words trite, and that spoken by a neophyte (newbie). Moreover, I am stunned that Obama with a only a year in the Senate, had the hubris, (becoming more pronouced as his campaign the days go by) to run for the highest office in the country. Furthermore, some of his retorts were very unconvincing. For example, no one with an IQ 2 above plant life, could possibly believe that after 20years sitting in Reverand Wright's pews he had not heard anti-American rhetoric. So why did this ostensibly ambitious man act as if he were ignorant of such musings at the pulpit? And why why why did he remain in that church, and expose his wife and family to these anti-white diatribes? Moreover, Obama's stream of mistruths began when he said he was conceivd during the events surrounding the Selma incident--now if that were true, it would mean that Barack Obama's mother had a four year gestational period before giving birth to her son. Yet, the media never called him out on this. Moreover, while the focus was on Hillary's "snipergate"- Mr. Clean was reported to have gone to a major Chicago Newspaper, to admit that he had been more involved in the Rezko deal than he noted earlier--Yet again, Obama was given a free pass.





But the most disgraceful activities during the primary were conducted by Speaker Nacy Pelosi, who kept prompting Hillary to get out of the race and make way for her "tanned-golden boy" Pelosi's actions were abhorent, and so ostensibly skewed- that it was impossible not to recognize them for what they were.



My hope is that Hillblazers, and supporters of Hillary Clinton, continue to make their sentiments known. And that at the convention her name is called out in nomination.



As for me, I will not support Barack Obama, who apart from skin color, is far from a candidate of "Change". In fact, his recents flipflops, show his visceral true color "Yellow"- a coward fearing that sticking to his initial convictions would lose him the race. Is that the change we want?



One note for those who care that Hillary is considered for VP. As long as Barack Obama feels he doesn't need her support or volume of contributers, ,my hunch is that he is appealing to the money folks but has absolutely no intention of asking her to be VP-



So dearest Clinton contributors, please consider before pouring dollars into his campaign. Do we want Hillary in the Senate ad infinitum, or in the White House where she truley belongs.



Debby Cardarella, Media Specialist

truegreen · 1 year ago

As long as Clinton supporters continue to pester Barack Obama to tap Hillary Clinton for VP, the more Obama and his supporters will push back. Obama is the nominee and the decisions is his and his only not Clinton supporters. Clinton supporters should keep in mind Obama holds Hillary's feature in his hands. Whoever Obama choses the Clinton people will just have to live with it.

qpulpit · 1 year ago

For months I've had to endure ridiculous insults for being a supporter of Senator Obama. Now that the "cult of personality" surrounding the Clinton's has been exposed I have mixed emotions of anger and amusement.



It continues to be sickening that these Hillraisers continue to hide the shortcommings of their candidate behind charges of sexism. Hillary Clinton had all of the advantages going into the primary but she lost because she hired crappy advisors, ran a crappy campaign, and she voted for a war that the majority of the Democratic party hates. They offer no evidence whatsoever that gender hurt her campaign and gloss over her and her husband's racebaiting.



If these 'Democrats in name only' want to withhold their support for the candidate I say go ahead and walk. In politics no one gets everything they want. Senator Obama has done quite enough to placate the Hillraisers. At this point they are either on board or not. Repaying the debt that Clinton generated in their failed presidential bid is a drag on fundraising that is needed to defeat McCain and I'll have no part of it.



I will be making donations to any primary opponent of Clinton in her next senate race. I've had enough of the Clinton's and their divisive legion of fatcats.

lvdragonlady · 1 year ago

I can only hope the Barack, keeps his own counsel and does not let outside influences impact his decision.

She is not a good vp choice, never has been and the last thing he needs is cement shoes to drag him down.

bluemax · 1 year ago

To Debby Cardarella, voice-over artist: Those who are voting for the Democratic candidate in November, remain distraught by how YOU Clinton supporters have treated Senator Obama. Your ignorance is demonstrated by use of derogatory terms to describe our candidate, "tanned-golden boy" and "visceral true color

cornforth · 1 year ago

I hope that if Obama does offer the VP position of Clinton that she turns it down flat.

She is over qualified for that position. If Obama loses in November guess who most will/would blame? Clinton.

To have to support someone on a daily basis as underqualified as Senator Obama would be mind numbing to say the least.

Bluemax you stated all the bills and legislation Obama has help introduce and support.......but you did not let it be known tha he has one of the HIGHEST Absences among all the Senators. Even Clinton and McCain have less absences than Obama.

Who CARES what the mans skin color is? I sure as heck do not.

It simply comes down to this one glaring mind blowing fact. A 3 YR SENATOR FROM ILLIONIS DOES NOT HAVE THE EXPERIANCE NEEDED TO DO THE JOB AS IT DEMANDS. EVEN HE SAID 3 YRS AGO HE WOULD NOT HAVE THE EXPERIANCE HE BELIEVES IS NEEDED FOR SUCH AN IMPORTANT POSITION.

moondancer · 1 year ago

So what percentage of the Clintonista is behind this? After the faction that is supporting McCain in a lemming like rush to political self destruction, and the faction that intends to destroy Obama at the convention how many can be left to force Clinton on the hated Obama? Really.

If Obama loses, It will be entertaining to watch Clinton try to put the pieces back together in a party that will largely blame her for the defeat.

Oh and cornforth, given the choice between a resume of three years of excellence and twenty plus of mediocrity and corruption I choose the excellence.

moondancer · 1 year ago

So what percentage of the Clintonista is behind this? After the faction that is supporting McCain in a lemming like rush to political self destruction, and the faction that intends to destroy Obama at the convention how many can be left to force Clinton on the hated Obama? Really.

If Obama loses, It will be entertaining to watch Clinton try to put the pieces back together in a party that will largely blame her for the defeat.

Oh and cornforth, given the choice between a resume of three years of excellence and twenty plus of mediocrity and corruption I choose the excellence.

fogcityjohn · 1 year ago

It's amazing to see Clinton supporters demanding that Clinton and her supporters be "respected" when they have shown so little respect to Obama and his supporters. These rich, out-of-touch, white women haven't thought twice about how disrespectful they've been to Obama's African-American supporters. On the night Obama sealed the nomination, Clinton didn't ONCE recognize in her speech the historic nature of an African-American winning the nomination of a major political party. This is all the more galling to African-Americans, since without their support, neither Bill nor Hillary Clinton would be in office today.



And I'm sure all of these women cheered Hillary Clinton's unsubtle racializing of the primary campaign. They've screamed about all of the sexism in the campaign, but they uttered not a peep when Hillary tried to tie Obama to Farrakhan on the basis of nothing other than skin color. Trust me, although neither Ms. Iscol nor Her Ladyship Forrester de Rotschild may care about such things, African-Americans do.



So to the Hillary diehards who are threatening to support McCain or sit this out, I say consider this: If Obama loses because of you, African-Americans may hold your dear Hillary responsible, and if she tries to run in 2012, AAs may do to her what you're trying to do to Obama. And I don't care how wonderful you think Hillary is, she'll never be elected without the strong support of the AA community. Try to imagine Hillary seeking to convince AAs to forgive her (white) supporters' refusal to support the first black nominee the Democratic Party has ever had. If y'all think the Clintons' relationship to AA voters is bad now, you ain't seen nuthin' yet.

turndownobama · 1 year ago

HIllary as VP would pick up some of her shallower supporters, but it would create opposition from her more serious supporters, who do not want her to give up her own Senate career to follow Obama's orders. Whenever this idea is mentioned on blogs such as pumapac, bitterpoliticz, hillaryis44, etc, there is much, er, bitter opposition.

sojourner · 1 year ago

I am a Hillary supporter who definitely does not want to see Hillary as Obama's VP. I hope she stays far away from him. He would only drag her down with a certain failed presidency.



Donna Brazile has said the Democratic party no longer needs what has always been its base. They have young voters now, and African Americans to take the place of old white ladies and Hispanics and Jews. Well, let's just see how she feels about that in November.

sheltiemom · 1 year ago

To each and every Obama supporter on this blog: Wise up. If you were listening to the MSM (MSNBC, CNN) they you'd have to know how Hillary Clinton was treated by your Selectee and the MSM. If you do know and were cheering them on, then you deserve what you might get in November. But if we PUMAs can help it, he'll be just another also-ran. Let's see him try to brush that off his shoulder and pants leg.

tlatexaspuma · 1 year ago

First, HillRaisers are only one organization. There are at least 230 websites under the Just Say No Coalition that have grown to over 2.5 million members in 6 weeks. Former Obama supporters are joining as well do the continius flip-flops of the candidate. These members are men and women, young and old, and all races. We love our party, but we love our country more. Each memmber in the organization has their own view and outcome as does Ms.Iscol. We are have the same agreement though is the fact we will not endorse Senator Obama. A vote for Senator Obama would be for a party that has abandoned the principles of 'equal representation' that our nation and the idea of the proportional primary was founded upon.



DNC Rules & Bylaws committee back room dealing and only counting 1/2 the votes and delegates from FL & MI. As a Democrat that reverted me back to the Gore election of 2000. The Democratic primary was a close race like the Bush-Gore race of 2000. Deja vu huh! I wasn

groucho · 1 year ago

The fact that many Clinton supporters now claim to prefer McCain to Obama shows what many of us have thought all along: the Clintons were not really Democrats; they were just interested in holding power. That's why so much of her campaign (and now the vitriol of her supporters) is about what SHE deserves, not what the country needs. While Clinton supporters do have legitimate complaints about her treatment by the media, there only complaint about Obama appears to be that he had the nerve to run when she had already earned the right to be President. Now their focus seems to be that its more important that he show her the proper respect than that he pick the person best able to help him win and govern effectively. I don't think I am the only person who prefers Obama at least in part because he keeps pointing out that the campaign is not about him. When Hillary and her supporters understand this point, maybe they will be able to open their minds and hearts to the principles which are at the core of the Democratic party. We dont need two Republican parties.

kwaayesnama · 1 year ago

We all know Hillary has those 18,000,000 supporters that LOVE her to death..

So please help her by showing your love...

This is my challenge to Clinton supporters...

If you like Hillary please send her $1 this month...

If you really loved her please send her $5...

If you really - really - really loved her send her $10...

And all of you McCain supporters that are thankful to the bitter Clinton supporters please send her $100, you could afford it much more then the poor uneducated, white, bitter Clinton followers...

By next month all eighteen plus million of you will pay off her debt and we will not have to listen to her begging anymore...

This will also be an indicator of how many people truly care about the Clintons...

verafromsedona · 1 year ago

Dear Clinton supporters:

Time to wipe your tears and move on. The Democratic Party has its nominee. The Republicans in all their wisdom have theirs. Now the choice is up to the American people. Your Lies, bloggs, letters, petitions, threats and tears will not change that. In November you will have to choose between, the democratic candidate promising a change from Bush/McCain politics. Or McCain who says he is not running on the Bush presidency. But McCain might want to check his campaign