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Do you have a loved one with Autism? If not, your opinion does not matter-
It was a rally about vaccines, not autism, as your report and those of others ("Age of Autism") have indicated. Perhaps one day parents might rally round the need for more schools and school placements for autistic kids and housing and jobs for autistic adults----but we may be too busy taking care of the day-to-day to go to a rally.
Someone left this comment on my blog regarding the internet and the spread of medical (mis)information:
"The internet has become in retrospect the best and worst thing to happen to medicine in the past quarter century. This, along with the inflated self-esteem of the general public (educated by anti-authority 60
I am a mother of two children, none of which have autism. I think you went to the Rally and wanted to write a really good story, but may have gotten offended when one of the speakers told the rally supporters to be angry with the media. Because the media is to blame for most of the "mis-informed" press (like your article written above) who don't read the studies themselves only to report what the CDC wants the report to say. **There were THOUSANDS (@ 8,000 to be exact) at the rally - Obviously math isn't your strong point, since your article said there were only about 1,500. (You and the CDC wish there were only about 1,500 - If there were only 1,500 people the DC police wouldn't have closed down a section of Independence Ave to march on.) They would've made us march only on the sidewalk - true story.
I love the part in your article where you say the most shots given "max" by age 2 is 28 (TOO MANY TOO SOON!) But there are 37 shots recommended by the CDC by age 6. (Here is the CDC schedule for your viewing pleasure: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/down...) **This # includes the newly recommended flu shots.
--BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE
By the time your child is 17 the # of recommended shots is 53 for girls (HPV - cervical cancer vaccine) or 50 for a boy. Here is the link for this information: (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/down...) **This # includes the newly recommended flu shots.
You are nothing more than a pompous jackass who probably wishes he was writing for the New York Times or possibly even Playboy. But instead your boss made you cover the "Green Our Vaccines" rally and that made you mad. Hey, it's not our fault your bitter.
I challenge you to read through an entire PRO-VACCINE book. It's called The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears. I am a mother who DELAYS vaccination and due so BECAUSE of this PRO-VACCINE book. I have done my homework and do not feel like my child should get so many vaccines to protect the entire population of the US. Which brings me to my next question for you Arthur: Have you had your booster shots lately? If not, it appears that by the CDC's recommendation you are in of 14 shots - of course this # doesn't include the annual flu shot. (I looked you up online and you appear to be @ 60 years old; an unattractive 60, but still 60.) Oh and by the way, here is the link for your viewing pleasure: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/recs/schedules/down....
**Anyone who reads this article - Your best source for the correct information would be to see it for yourself on YouTube.
Sincerely,
Chantele
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I knew it couldn't last. Sooner or later, someone had to pull the "pharma shill" card. The funny thing is that people go right past that and ask " don
Amish aren't vaccinated. There should be 130 autistic people in Lancaster county according to the national autism rates. There are only 4. Three of these children were adopted and received vaccines prior to arriving at the amish family. One autistic amish lived down wind of a powerplant which discharged mercury into the air.
Mercury in vaccines is not the only cause of autism. It is a large trigger accompanied by genetic and environmental factors. The science is real....read the studies by Richard Deth, Boyd Hayley, and the CDC among others.
As a side note. I have a child who was autistic, then underwent years of chelation therapy to remove the mercury from the vaccines from his body. He is now recovered, healthy and living an autism free life.
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Read the science in the Omnibus transcripts when they come out. Deth's theories on oxydative stress make no sense (according to the world experts on it). Boyd Haley's ideas on mecury (which he couldn't present because he isn't an expert) make no sense. The real experts on mercury and autism spoke and it isn't even like there is a question.
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As to Simpsonwood, geez, will that ever go away? Even a U.S. Senate investigation showed nothing wrong there. What do you think Mr. Allen was referring to in his discussion of RFK Jr's incredibly flawed story in Rolling Stone?
*Piece of advice you need a haircut and some new clothes. Yes, I am allowed to judge you.
Have you had your boosters lately??
Page 7 of this pdf states:
Efficacy of the toxoid has never been studied in a vaccine
trial. It can be inferred from protective antitoxin levels that
a complete tetanus toxoid series has a clinical efficacy of
virtually 100%; cases of tetanus occurring in fully immunized
persons whose last dose was within the last 10 years are
extremely rare.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downl...
When was your last booster? Mine was in 1987. I'm not dead yet. No lock jaw. No really serious wounds, but I clean them when they occur. Not a worry of mine. I did have a nice, painful lump in my arm for about six months after the shot. It oozed pus for a while after that. Still have a scar. Small reaction, but I'd rather not risk a bigger one.
Our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents and many of us ourselves did not recieve these vaccines and we have made it this far. Scare tactics work wonders at getting us to react. Feed your child well, teach him to take care of himself (wash hands, etc) and trust in his immune system!
NVIC is a good resource as is the CDC Pink Pages, check VAERS for vaccine adverse events reports, do your research! You can always vaccinate later, but you cannot undo them once they are in your child.
Also, our great grandparents and parents and people of my generation (baby boomer) had lots of mercury exposure from all kinds of stuff, including stuff easily and frequently purchased without a prescription. People used to use calomel at huge doses for different things, it wasn't just a "teething powder". I can't even guess how many bottles of merthiolate and mercurochrome my mother must have purchased in her lifetime (my mom is past 80 and shows no signs of mercury toxicity from all that handling of thimerosal in merthiolate).
The whacked out mercury moms and dads and the whacked out antivax squad are going to be tossed aside as useless by the new generation of parents of autistic kids, some of whom will, no doubt, be suing wi-fi device manufacturers and pesticide manufacturers and I expect that they'll sue "evolution" for inventing Lyme disease, if they can figure out how to do that.
Don't let some people fool you about when our grandparents lost little children/infants. There was no sewer system and lots of times no clean water. When you have these basic's you don't have all the disease's.
Most of the vaccines today, are preventing normal childhood illness's,
like Chickenpox, Mumps, measles.
Google ingredients of each vaccine, and you can even go to the CDC website and see the list of toxins.
There is a better way.
The worst thing to happen to your child is a weak immune system, a poor diet, and poor digestive system. Vaccines weaken the bodies
ablitity to stay healthy.
All comments to the contrary to that are quoting (not the data, but) conclusions and judgments where the vested interests are easily traceable. I don
You have a completely wrong idea of even simple illnesses like mumps!! If our grandfathers were all sterile, how the heck would we even be here?! The risk for mumps is that if children do not get it when they are CHILDREN and instead get it past puberty, there is a SLIGHT chance it could go into the testicles and an even SLIGHTER chance that it could cause sterility in A testicle (which is very, very rare and even rarer - much rarer - that it could cause sterility in both). Please do some research - it will help you with your fears.
I still don't understand why the pro-vax people are so worried about what the rest of us are doing! If you are fearful of illness, take care of yourselves! You can't rely on government or the pharmaceutical companies to take care of you - they are in this for profits, not altruistic concerns for the health of the world.
By the way, we are ALL concerned parents. That is why we are doing what we think is best for our children. Just like you.
Exactly how many vaccines have you received? If you have not received the recommended 36 than according to your recommendations to parents YOU are a threat to society and might spread the scourge of diseases...Practice what you preach, my friend.
SHAME on you for attacking a kind mother of a child who was FULLY Vaccinated who suffers daily, and has yet to utter a word since vaccination.
Perhaps in the future you might try and act decent, "professional" and have some compassion while in the company of 8,500 parents (police estimate) who struggle with the daily heartbreak and care of their brain damaged children, what ever you believe the cause may be.
Leslie,
Mother of a FULLY vaccinated child (now 10)
*Who quickly regressed afterward...
*Was told to put her in an institution...
*Has a diagnosis of heavy metal poisoning...
*Has a rare auto-immune disease...
*Requires round the clock constant care...
*Has yet to utter a word since 18 months...
*Is in recovery due to Bio-medical intervention and numerous therapies.
Maybe you should investigate the chidldren themselves, and open your mind and your eyes.
It would be nice to be able to respond to the scientific objections to the position I share with Arthur without all this personal antipathy.
I beg your pardon, but exactly WHAT PART of Arthur Allen's non-journalistic angry opinion of this event was "clearly respectful?" What it this line, "
the claim that vaccines cause autism is a serious one that has to be met. It used to be that MMR was blamed, especially in the UK. Then the opportunity for a natural experiment arose. In Japan they used an MMR vaccine whose Mumps component was linked to meningitis. As a result MMR was dropped in 1993 and single jabs introduced. But autism rates continued to rise. New Scientist carries the story here. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7076
In the United States autism was linked to thiomersal. Exposure to thiomersal more than doubled the exposure to ethyl mercury from 75 to 187 microgams at a time when recorded rates of autism rose to 1 in 150. In the UK exposure to thiomersal in the childhood vaccine schedule remained constant at 75 micrograms until 2003 when it was removed. But our autism rates went up the same as in the USA. And there has been no decline in autism in either country since thiomersal was eliminated from both our childhood vaccine schedules.
Now we are told that there are too many vaccines. Yet todays vaccine schedule contains less antigens than ever before.
As too the ingredients, now the mercury is gone they are turning to aluminium As someone commented recently on my blog
"The aluminum in vaccines come as nano-sized fibers that lodge in the tissue at the injection site. They recruit immune cells to enhance the antibody response. The aluminum fibers are stuck in the tissue, they do not circulate in the body.
"And yet, the anti-vax crowd keeps perseverating on aluminum and make wild claims that since thimerosal was eliminated aluminum content has increased. This is patently false as aluminum is not a preservative."
It is not enough for parents to to say that they know the vaccines caused their child's autism because they noticed the autism shortly after the child had their shots. Correlation does not equal causation. First we need to establish a biologically plausible pathway with a reasonable timesacale for cause and effect and then test it. MMR was plausible but can now be discounted. Likewise thiomersal. The increased vaccine burden is implausible. So what's next? A hypothetical link to aluminium?
The argument that a significant number of children are autistic because of vaccines does not stand up to scrutiny. The argument that a tiny number of autistic children are autistic because of vaccines is possible. But these would be exceptional cases, like all the other compensable vaccine injuries that are dealt with every year. But it seems that it is only among a vocal minority of parents within the autism community that these cases are seen as a reason to campaign against and call into question the safety of the vaccine programme for all children.
Wendy Fournier and Arthur Allen have a history. He thinks she is full of shit and told her so. That does not translate into disrespect for all the parents on the march.
Do you have a cite for the 8000 figure? I watched the entire march pass a traffic cam on the Mall and put the numbers at no more than 2000.
Then comes your selective quote:
"(The parents of these children have difficult lives and spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to care for their kids.) Feeling ripped off, they blame the government and industry, and say that environmental toxins and vaccines are responsible."
The part you omitted in brackets gives a context for why the parents feel ripped off. I feel ripped off by the way the system dealt with my son. I am sure that timely provision of services and support to parents would do a lot to alleviate this feeling and assist greatly in helping parents come to terms with their child's autism.
You say,
"Your heels are dug in and your mind will not be changed. I wonder what evidence would change your mind
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So, what number of vaccines is too many?
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What vaccines can or should we do without?
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We know that Jenny McCarthy's organization thinks we can (and should) do without Measles, Mumps and Rubella. If that's your position, state it clearly when you talk to the press and your legislators.
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Mr. Carrey put pressure on a group in New Mexico and had a free vaccine clinic cancelled. At least, this is what the blog run by the organization that Ms. McCarthy fronts bragged about recently. Luckily the recent measles outbreak missed New Mexico. I wonder what the response would have been if that area had been hit? Would Dr. Gordon congratulate them on getting natural immunity? Would anyone have accepted some responsibility if anyone was injured or killed?
If you think we're not "doing our homework," perhaps you should look a little more deeply at yourself. Give me a break!
First of all, over 8,000 attendees were at this rally (they also had to preregister for this event). Arthur Allen must be feeding this same bullshit to the U.K. media because they are also claiming fewer than 1,000 people showed up. Lies, lies, lies.
Also, in 1983 Autism affected 1 in 10,000. It now affects 1 in 67 ELEMENTARY SCHOOL CHILDREN (that are in IEP's for Autism) according to the U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. Don't believe me? Check this out for yourself.
Also, thousands of parents have claims success with biomedical treatment. Go to www.generationrescue.org Yes, they do blame our "powers that be" for poisoning their children in the first place. Some parents have had to spend as much as $500,000 to get their child back to normal. Others have divorced, committed suicide, or just end up killing themselves and children due to the feeling of hopeless (absolutely no hope according to the so-called medical professionals). Autism is a nightmare.
This guy Arthur Allen is a bozo. I sent him an email asking him to respond to all of my facts (which were statements by the CDC or information dervived from the vaccine literature). Of course, he told me that he didn't have time to respond. My guess is that he has been paid off by "our powers that be". For someone that claims to be such an "expert" on the subject - makes me laugh because everything he states is a blatent lie - and the CDC and drug companies own reported information proves it.
This other guy Mike Stanton is a bozo too. He also has no clue what he is talking about. I guess he forgot that the MMR was removed from the market in Japan believe it caused encephilitis in every 1,044 babies (BRAIN SWELLING). Also, MERCURY HAS NOT BEEN REMOVED IN THE U.S. (only lowered to trace amounts while the aluminum content was sharply raised). Aluminum and mercury combined result in synergystic toxicity (the affects of the mercury are more devastating). An independent lab tested 4 mercury free vials (HAPI) and they all contained mercury. The FDA no longer requires it to be listed if it is in trace amounts (meaning less than .3 micrograms). Of course, they also don't test these vaccines either for exact mercury content(please refer to their website for their drug disclaimer). Furthermore, the ONLY way that mercury is excreted from the body is through bile, which is something an infant does not produce until 6 mo. of age. Where does it go? Straight to the infant's brain - which is why it is not detected in blood, hair, etc (unless the patient is IMMEDIATELY tested after vaccination).
So, with that said, I URGE EVERYONE to refer to this link for vaccine ingredients:
http://vaers.hhs.gov/pdf/PackageInserts.pdf
Print off the vaccine literature from the website, take it to a chemist, and have that person explain the affects of each ingredient. They will tell you that many of these same ingredients are contained in their lab with skulls and crossbones on the label.
As to all the "thimerosal-has-been-removed" talk, it really hasn't been removed. There are still trace amounts "allowed" and no one is really overseeing the "trace" amounts. Also, most flu vaccines still contain mercury (you can ask for mercury-free, but with all this propaganda stating that the mercury has been removed from vaccines, most parents probably don't even know to ask for them). Most Hep-B and DTaP vaccines also have mercury. I will try to find you the studies about the "trace amounts" not being so trace at all and will post later.
Lastly, autism is considered by many to be an autoimmune disorder - that means the body is attacking itself. It's not JUST the thimerosal or aluminum or other toxins that cause autism. It's the whole process of the shot. Here is what a friend wrote in a letter to a family member that pretty much covers what I want to say: "When a child is injected (unnaturally) with a vaccine filled with a killed or live virus and other ingredients such as heavy metals,
formaldehyde, neomycin/antibiotics, etc. it bypasses the "built in"
immune system and the foreign "intruders" cause the body to go into a
state of confusion and continuous inflammation--the TH1/2/3 cells are
not activated properly, causing auto-immunity--the body, in essence,
attacks itself, resulting in illnesses like asthma, allergies, autism/
ADHD, eczema, lupus, etc. Consider that vaccines never provide true
immunity, which is why vaccines "wear off" and children need
continuous boosters--and why disease epidemics often occur in fully
or near-fully vaccinated populations."
That is the true reason autism rates haven't gone down when certain ingredients have been removed (or not removed). It's not natural. I wish humans would learn that we can't beat Mother Nature.
I do not know of any investigations into MMR and autism that were funded by the pharmaceutical companies. Though I am uncertain of the sgnificance of this point unless you are saying that academics of the stature of Eric Fombonne and Michael Rutter have been paid to lie about the MMR by pharmaceutical companies.
I do know of a number of studies purporting to show a connection between MMR and autism which were paid for by lawyers acting for parents in vaccine compensation cases. In the UK millions of pounds of tax payers money was paid out in legal aid to finance this. Dr Bustin and Dr Chadwick have since given testimony at the Omnibus Autism Proceedings which showed that the findings from this reseach were fatally flawed.
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Regarding Thiomersal, the trace elements of mercury remaining in vaccines are traces, fractions of a microgram. Remember the claim was that the increase from 75 micrograms to 187 micrograms triggered the increase in autism, not fractions of a microgram. Flu vaccine? The only one licenced for under 2 year olds last year was mercury free.
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Autism as an autoimmune disorder? There is very little research published and the data is contradictory and controversial. Amarel at MIND talks about some children having very robust immune systems and others being sickly. With maybe 1 per cent of the population somewhere on the spectrum you can probably find correlations with anything if you look.
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Cannot beat Mother Nature? Smallpox eradicated - that was a result for us and vaccines.
I, on the other hand have obtained my information from a variety of sources - thousands of parents of vaccine injured children, VAERS, the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, vaccine literature supplied by the drug manufacturers, the CDC's REAL reported disease statistics 1 - 5 years BEFORE each vaccine came on the market, the FDA's claim on their website that they don't test anything, the U.S. Department of Education's statistics on children in IEP's, etc. Those are the facts buddy - the rest is all BS and a waste of good reading time. Vaccines ARE NOT responsible for eradication of disease (based on information obtained from the CDC) AND DO damage at the very minimum - thousands of people each year.
the chances of children catching these horrible diseases goes up when people do not vaccinate. If we wait until children are "strong enough" to vaccinate what happens if they catch these diseases when they are not strong enough?
the diseases we vaccinate against.
I think you should rename your blog action for vaccination as it is all you seem to talk about, why is this ?
when are you going to start listening to the carers of these children.the NAS was founded by parents and is failing to listen or take not of world events.
I would love the NAS to commission a real survey (not one one thomas the tank engine videos)
q1 did you child have a severe reaction to any vaccination
q2 does you child have diarrhoeal or constipation that is being treated by a doctor
q3 does you child have food intolerances
q4 do you believe vaccinations contributed to the severity of your childs autism.
btw I had mealses and mumps as a child , my mum tells me the doctor did not think it safe as my sister had asthma.
SO MUCH FOR MEDICAL ADVANCES
Medical evidence supports a link between the drastic increase in autism and the drastic increase in the number of vaccines given. Dr. Stephanie Cave's book "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations" gives excellent information shot by shot, including convincing scientific documentation of her points. She is a family practitioner who specializes in integrated medical therapies that treat autistic children, as well as those with ADHD.
She notes in particular a huge upswing in cases when HepB was added to the list of vaccinations...basically right at birth. Why? Not because infants are in a high-risk group for HepB; the high-risk groups are people sexually active with multiple partners and IV drug users. Call me crazy, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to hold off a few years on that one. (Don't think Baby Johnny's going to be shooting up until at least the playground years.)
It is a well-know fact that infants' immune systems and ability to process waste are not well-developed at birth. It is also a documented certainty that: a) many of the people who get diseases like chicken pox were immunized in childhood; and b) if they had simply gone through the discomfort of it as a child, it would most likely been annoying for a few days, followed by lifelong immunity. These diseases are nearly always more serious for adults. So immunizing against fairly harmless childhood diseases is pointless and largely counterproductive.
As for not seeing a direct and immediate connection... My son went from being ahead of the game in speech, learning a couple of new words every day when he was less than a year old, to a complete stall and partial regression that lasted for months--all coinciding with his shots. After that, we delayed additional vaccinations and he's regained ground, once again learning at a reasonably fast pace. Circumstantial? Maybe. But I had to weigh the risks and felt that his development was at greater risk than his immunological health in the near term. The CDC has been wrong too many times before, giving vaccines for years, then suddenly pulling them from the shelves. As a society, we're in too big of a hurry on just about everything--including vaccines we shoot straight into our bodies.
My heart goes out to these parents and I know if God forbid something terrible happened to my child, I would want to blame someone/something so I didn't go crazy. But surely there has to be a way to refine the association more accurately. For example, what about countries where children are not routinely vaccinated? Is there autism in those countries? If not, the parents may be right. But if autism exists in places with no vaccines, they have a harder case to make.
Conversely, are there highly-vaccinated places with little or no autism?
The Point You Should Consider Is get you own body tested for Heavy Metals ( The DMPS Challenge Test Is All We Have )There is a treatment!
There is no safe level of Mercury in the Body.
There is no safe limit for Lead in your body.
Many metal increase the effects of other metals and very little is known
http://www.klinghardt.org/
Google Heavy Metal Poisoning Now !
There is treatment for Heavy Metal Poisoning. Chelation!!