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Breaking: Obama Demands Special Prosecutor Investigate GOP Voter Fraud Activities
Started by washingtonindependent · 8 months ago
Citing an “unholy alliance” between Republican operatives and potentially illegal conduct by law enforcement targeting voter fraud, the Obama campaign demanded Friday that the U.S. special prosecutor looking into the U.S. attorney scandal investigate the matter.
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Thats right the democrats have not lift a finger to investigate or do anything about the other 2 thief of presidency..
In fact our democrats have been supporting the republicans corporate control and secret electronic voting machines which have been proven to delete and switch votes..
Democrats sound the same as Pelosi on IMPEACHMENT ,,, they keep it off the table.....
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The activities are going to get worse--much worse--with McCain. That Obama sees this is a good sign. Let's hope the fix, however, isn't already in. Because a McCain presidency would spell the end of this nation as we know it.
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Several years ago Karl Rove and Tom Delay hatched a plan to create a permanent Republican majority. They launched their plan in Texas, hence the gerrymandering here several years ago. Voter suppression is part of their scheme. When W. entered the White House, his AG Gonzales purged the professional staff and replaced it with partisan hacks. Gonzales, doing Rove's bidding, fired the attorneys for their refusal to fabricate cases of voter fraud. In 2000 voter rolls were caged and purged in Florida. Ditto Ohio in 2004 along with Ken Blackwell's blatant and well-documented voter suppression measures.
The GOP's problem with ACORN is that if there is a high voter turn out, they will lose the election.
America, after all is a democratic Republic in which its citizens are guaranteed the right to vote. This right should not be compromised and/or corrupted by unethical politicians.
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Looks like Obama is trying to get the spotlight off himself and his association with ACORN, and turn it somewhere else.
Typical ploy.
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Do you really WANT the people at ACORN to sift through registrations and decide which should be sent on and which shouldn't? Really?
As it is, THEY are the ones to initially flag the obvious, or even suspected, problem forms.
Also, once again, none of this is vote fraud. No matter how many addresses Mickey Mouse is registered at, the odds of him actually being able to show up at a polling place and cast a vote is rather slim. To be vote fraud, it would have to involve, you know, actual voting.
And the special prosecutor is investigating the firing of attorneys who were ordered to find Mickey Mouse and were shown the door when they looked and found that there was absolutely no there, there.
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http://www.bradblog.com/?p=6512
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I see a clear and disturbing pattern here - an attempt to limit free speech both at the federal and state level. The Obama campaign requested the Justice Department to undergo a criminal investigation of the American Issues Project when it ran ads highlighting Obama’s ties to Ayers. The Obama campaign further requested Missouri State Officials (City and County Attorneys) to bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were “false.” What is going on here??? Where is the respect for the right of freedom of speech??? If you believe someone is lying, tell them they are lying. These threats of criminal prosecutions are for one purpose and one purpose only - to place a clear and lasting chill on the right of freedom of speech.
And, may I remind you that all of these Stalinist assaults on the first amendment by the Obama campaign are occurring BEFORE Senator Obama has any real power. What do you think he will do when he has the power of the presidency behind him?
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The excuse is the lie that the USA has a major problem with *registration* fraud. It doesn't. And the proof that it doesn't is that Karl Rove tried to get those US attorneys to prosecute someone - anyone! - for illegal voting. The prosecutors refused - because they investigated the numerous cases that Rove have them and found that the cases were weak / non-existent. There might be a few (not many! just a few!) fake names out there, but there are not people trying to use those fae names to vote. See?
But Rove needed a conviction of someone, so that he could turn it into a media circus and everyone would feel OK about the millions of names being removed from voter rolls nationally. GOP operatives denying ordinary people the right to vote would suddenly become heroes defending democracy. That was the plan.
But it didn't happen. And then he made a mistake. His overreaction in firing the prosecutors - to replace them with sympathetic ones who would run the dodgy prosecutions he needed - backfired terribly.
So step 2 has been to use the very minor ACORN scandal instead. The fact is that ACORN pays its workers according to how many registrations they collect, so a handful of those workers (and this is a big national organisation!) have been making money fraudulently (at ACORN's loss!) by submitting MADE UP people. There is no conspiracy for those made up people to actually vote!! They are just pieces of paper created so some unemployed petty crook can get paid.
In fact, what ACORN does is tries to stop those dodgy registrations, by alerting the authorities to which ones they think are dodgy. But they are required by law to hand every single form in - which is why they hand in two piles - ones they think are OK and ones where they are suspicious of their own workers. This has been a VERY MINOR part of their MAJOR registration drive.
So what Rove is doing is using that very minor scandal (which can't affect the actual vote it's a scandal limited to registration; non-existent people can't claim their right to vote!) to justify the major purge of millions or REAL citizens. He is doing this because Plan A - using the prosecutors to get a conviction - backfired disastrously.
The Obama campaign is connecting these issues correctly - thanks largely to the work of Greg Palast.
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Assaults on free speech? How about Bush and his shredding of the entire Constitution? Calling for an investigation is NOT an assault on free speech; it's the only logical thing to do in the light of recent history.
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That’s why ACORN hands in at least two piles of applications; one pile that they have confirmed and a second pile that has the questionable applications; like the ones that have “Mickey Mouse” as the persons name.
The MSM labels that last pile as ‘ACORN hands in fraudulent voter registration forms”
I would not be surprised that if a full investigation were conducted by law enforcement that we will find that the bogus registration applications were handed in by Wingnuts who volunteered to work for ACORN for the sole purpose of doing this.
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18 more days!
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The special prosecutor is apparently investigating the firings of nine U.S. attorneys.
I ask several questions. First, from a practical matter, what will this accomplish - the election is 18 days away. A special prosecutor cannot possibly act quickly enough. Rather, why can't the Obama campaign publicly call this out - tell the world instead of holding a conference call Friday afternoon that no one is going to listed to anyway.
Second, I am still extremely troubled by the continuous invoking of the authorities when it involves speech/opinion. I do not like the trend I see. If you believe someone is lying - call them a liar and tell them why they're lying. Again, I do not like the Obama campaign involving the Justice Department or State prosecutors. I'd be curious if the McCain campaign did something similar (I'm not saying it makes what the Obama campaign right as a tit-for-tat, but I would equally condemn the McCain campaign if it did that).
As far as the caging lists and vote switching machines, again provide evidence. Both the right and the left are saying that the main stream media is for the other. Clearly some of the media is for the right and some is for the left. Use the media outlet that is for your political persuasion and get your message out.
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http://www.gregpalast.com/section/articles/
http://www.buzzflash.com/
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I guess that is exactly why the Republicans sprang this issue this late - their allegations can't be investigated in time and so cannot be rebutted if the claim turns out to be fraudulent - classic political dirty tricks.
(quote)Rather, why can't the Obama campaign publicly call this out - tell the world instead of holding a conference call Friday afternoon that no one is going to listed to anyway.(unquote).
The reason is that if the data is held and investigated by an independent special prosecutor then all those who are found to be committing voter fraud will find themselves being prosecuted and jailed. This includes those who would also look at fraudulent allegations, voter intimidation and intimidation of those registering voters with the intention of preventing Democratic voters from voting, including law enforcement agencies and vigilante identity checkers on the lookout to block Democratic voters who turn up to vote with only their polling card.
What I find interesting is the fact that Obama is calling for an independent special prosecutor,
while the Republicans are opposing it. You have to wonder who is committing the real voter fraud here.
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Just because I don't think exactly like you doesn't mean I'm a wingnut - new term for me - I'm assuming an extreme right wing person.
Tell me how McCain/Palin has implied that he's secretly a Muslim and a terrorist, etc.? I saw on the television that some woman said in a McCain rally that Obama was a terrorist (or something to that effect) and McCain said he was absolutely not and that he respected Obama's accomplishments (or something like that) - McCain even got booed for it.
I know that Palin said that Obama pals around with terrorists - that's not the same thing as being a terrorist (or being called a terrorist) in my mind. I don't know why but Bill Ayers makes me angry - the guy is a terrorist - even he admits it. He's not apologetic at all about what he's done. He tried to create a revolution in the 60s/70s by setting bombs. Given what he's said, I believe he's still trying to start a revolution - just in a different way - using the education system to teach children and teach the future teachers.
Obama "worked" (and I used the term in quotes because it was a loose affiliation) with Bill Ayers on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. I listened to Milt Rosenburg on WGN 720 AM when he had Stanley Kurtz on. From what I understand, they spent a lot of money and they didn't accomplish anything - that's according to the Challenge's own assessment of the Chicago schools that it did send money to and the schools it didn't. And, from what I also heard, at least some of the money went to Ayers. I don't think it showed good judgment on Obama's part.
My hope is that if McCain is elected, the Democrats will have a fillibuster proof majority in the Senate so that he cannot appoint any Supreme Court Justices to overturn Roe v. Wade. But, that's a calculated risk - I'm aware of that. I simply don't believe that Obama has the experience necessary. And, I cannot tell you how much it sickens me that he is using these Stalinist tactics to silence people - It's worse in my mind to abridge free speech even if the speech is hateful or malicious than the original speech itself.
Bottom line - I don't think McCain is evil. I think he's a decent man. I will vote for him (first time I'm voting for a Republican Presidential Candidate). Again, call me a wingnut, a lug nut, or whatever, but that's the truth. And again, I'm not bitter about Senator Clinton losing - I'm definitely not happy and would have loved to vote for her.
I will say one final thing - I would hope (again this is a hope) that the discourse would not get personal or vindictive. Why can't people disagree without calling someone names or saying that they're evil? I assume you will respond to this post; however I won't be able to respond for a while because I'm heading out for the weekend. If (or when) you do, I ask two things: (1) not calling me a wingnut (I don't appreciate that and it doesn't advance the discourse); and (2) provide evidence of Stalinist assaults by the McCain campaign. As I said earlier, I don't believe it's right for either campaign to do so, but I'd like to know just the same.
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With guys like Rummie, Cheney, Wolfowitz etc ( the PaxAmericana) at the wheel! And the 'Guilty through Association" is also a lousy argument. The Keaton Five are at the start of this mortgage crisis. If you wanted to vote conservative, you should have voted Ron Paul but as for now McCain has voted 95% with Bush and Co. Also McCain has fought against transparency for POW families to have access to POW records. What is that all about.??? Sounds like communism to me!!! Don't get me wrong, McCain is a helluvalot better than Bush but again, todays Republican Party ain't Republican or Conservative for that matter. They have lost their compass.............ever since Nixon got into office.
Personally, I would have liked to see Kucinich versus Paul but hey......Americans are known to pass up great opportunities to claim back their constitution.
As for Acorn. Acorn hires people, who get people to register and ALL ballots have to be submitted under the law. Republicans know that a high voter turnout is not good for them because there are way more Dems than Repubs. Why not get hired with Acorn and get the opportunity to legally smear their reputation!
Sorry pal, the Rove tactic has been the brandname of the Republican Party!
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"VENGEANCE IS MINE SAYETH THE LORD"
How easy you right wing lug nut fundamentalist Christians forget. What a bunch of hypocrites
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You're pretending Obama and the Democrats are something they're not.
Democrat Bill Clinton saddled us NAFTA and the WTO. Gore was the architect of these agreements. Obama has no intension of withdrawing from these corporate trade policies. (He has made some vague, noncommittal comments about them to get workers concerned for their jobs to vote for him).
Obama and the Democrats have also sided with the insurance and pharmaceutical corporations against the middle class by opposing a single-payer health care system.
The Democrats, like their Republican counterparts, receive THE MAJORITY of their funding from corporate sources. (See http://www.opensecrets.org) That's where their loyalty lies. They only play an opposition party on TV.
Ralph Nader has called for pulling out of these corporate trade agreements that are lowering our standard of living. He's also called for a single-payer health care system.
I'm voting for Ralph Nader.
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We would all be a lot better off if people would throw out their damned TV's.
The news on TV is written and directed by Karl Rove and is utter BS.
Wake up and smell the PROPAGANDA.
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And again as I pointed out below, Acorn hires people to get others registered. These registration forms HAVE to be submitted by law, fraudulent or not! The real question is...............WHO are these people working for Acorn that collect registration forms that have fraudiulent information on them? They might as well be Republicans who seize the opportunity to smear the name of this organization in a legal way! Republicans know that high voter turnout is bad for them because there are more Dems than Republicans.
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-Paul Weyrich, Right-wing theocrat, co-founder of the Heritage foundation and Moral (not) Majority, on democracy.
Don't expect hardcore republicans EVER to defend democracy. Expect them to do everything they can to tear it down, cripple it. The DOJ is just another tool they've stolen for that purpose.
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You people are flippin' amazin'. Unfortunately I suspect a lot of you vote.
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First - this is evidence that the left are the ones who are bringing race into the election
Second - them are fighting words and if you have any gonads you would meet me and I'll display your lack of brains openly - you are a pinhead and a dangerous communist pig
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allowed to vote. Remember the GOP operatives have the advantage over the left in that they were a step ahead and still are with
the cystal ball ethics of voting machines and voting irregularities///
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- Republican Secretaries of State of swing-state Colorado have quietly purged one in six names from their voter rolls.
- Over several months, the GOP politicos in Colorado stonewalled every attempt by Rolling Stone to get an answer to the massive purge - ten times the average state's rate of removal.
- While Obama dreams of riding to the White House on a wave of new voters, more then 2.7 million have had their registrations REJECTED under new procedures signed into law by George Bush.
Kennedy, a voting rights lawyer, charges this is a resurgence of 'Jim Crow' tactics to wrongly block Black and Hispanic voters.
- A fired US prosecutor levels new charges - accusing leaders of his own party, Republicans, with criminal acts in an attempt to block legal voters as "fraudulent."
For updates and video reports, go to RollingStone.com
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THERES CHANGE
LIBERAL=COMMIES
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TJ, thank you for pointing out Palast and Kennedy. They have some excellent resources.
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you paranoid uneducated communist
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I never thought my former hero would turn into the biggest sleaze bag politician in American history.
He has become the person he once hated and is far worst and any former politician I have seen in my life and I have been here since 1942..
Ron
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I agree but haven't we as a nation reached an alltime low that this would happen? Bush has many faults, but he has done many things that have kept my butt safe. His low rating has been exacerbated out of proportion by a far left media.
Ray
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Prediction -- it could get really ugly this time, not just words. I would advise some of those self-appointed "improvers" of minority and poor voters to go home this year after they vote, and console themselves, maybe with a fine 100-year old Cognac, for their inability to re-impose peonage this year.
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