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The Washington Independent: Attacks on Sunstein Frustrate Conservative Fans

  • Irish_Wake · 3 months ago
    Let us review.
    The job is running the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.
    The position was created by that sneaky liberal President Reagan.
    The nominee was labelled by the loyal opposition as conservative, and welcomed.
    The Wall Street Journal practically gushed with pleasure and praise.
    Chambliss and Cornyn place a hold on the process because of HIS VIEWS ON HUNTING?

    Cantor is mistaken, of course. The czars are more accountable to congress than most White House staff: witness how Congress is preventing his taking the job.

    The issue is not the nominee, his qualifications, or his performance. The issue is a group in Congress that are behaving like the People's Republic of China - drag out negotiations for as long as possible using false, improper and misleading language to obscure their actual agenda.

    The first post that whines 'The Democrats did the same thing!' wins the booby prize.
  • jeffinohio · 3 months ago
    "Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.)–that Obama is attempting to expand the number of “czars” in order to sneak radicals into his administration."

    Sneaky radicals.....next up, Obama Admin refuses to put Humpty Dumpty back together again.
  • So · 3 months ago
    Multiple posts about Sunstein, and you still have not mentioned any of the progressive problems with Sunstein.
  • David Weigel · 3 months ago
    The story is about conservatives, but you make a good point. That's the flip side of this.
  • strangely_enough · 3 months ago
    With a heaping helping of irony. Delicious.
  • ritabright · 3 months ago
    Why the objection to the 'czars'? Did they question Nixon when he did it?? Ummm, I wonder.
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    Yes they did!
    Don't you remember?

    If your not old enough to remember than its probably best you not to speak on that which
    you know nothing about.
  • Michael K Pate · 3 months ago
    If he actually meant this quote:

    But the kinds of regulation that would respond to my concerns [about deliberative democracy], they're not really feasible and they probably wouldn't help. Most problems are best solved privately, not through government. There's a problem of discourtesy in the world, which is best handled through social norms, which are indispensable. But you wouldn't want the government to be mandating courtesy. - Cass Sunstein

    He made be a good choice for Regulation Czar.
  • Professor Guvinoff · 3 months ago
    There are a lot of things which could be discussed more sensibly if the public trust had not been abused since the inauguration of this president. The fitness of Cass Sunstein for office is one of them. A lot of public trust (and campaign money) have been invested in Obama. We now have a president who in the best case misread his mandate and in the worst case wants to subvert America. Whatever value may exist in the Obama administration is sunk by the breach of trust, something that is impossible to repair, no matter how much rethotic and oratory you throw at it.
  • RightDownTheMiddle · 3 months ago
    Yeah right....cuz the last prez built up soooo much trust. Your brain is the only thing I see that has been subverted...by Fox News.
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    This has absolutely nothing to do with the last president.
    The last President screwed up
    The last President was a goof in my opinion
    I could go on and on.

    PLEASE ANSWER ME THIS?
    At what point does the Current President actually have to take responsibility for his actions and that of His administration?

    Its either the race card or the Last President that is ALWAYS thrown in, in lack of anything intelligent and factual to offer to the conversation.
  • JackieM · 3 months ago
    Sunstein's views on animal rights and hunting, which in and of themselves are ridiculous, are not the problem. His writings on the First Amendment are, in particlular as it relates to the Fairness Doctrine.
    "A legislative effort to regulate broadcasting in the interest of democratic principles should
    not be seen as an abridgment of the free speech guarantee."
    --Cass R. Sunstein, Democracy and the Problem of Free Speech, The Free Press,
    1995, p. 92
    This quote is just one of many on the subject. And then there,s this interesting comment.
    .
    "My major aim in this book is to uncover an important but neglected part of America’s heritage: the idea of a second bill of rights. In brief, the second bill attempts to protect both opportunity and security, by creating rights to employment, adequate food and clothing, decent shelter, education, recreation, and medical care."
    -- Cass R. Sunstein, The Second Bill of Rights: FDR’s Unfinished Revolution and
    Why We Need it More Than Ever, Basic Books, New York, 2004, p. 1
  • GOPRIP · 3 months ago
    Too bad the rest of us just read "in the interest of democratic principles" where you read "in the interest of a shadow conspiracy to undermine hate-mongering and disinformation on AM radio."

    I mean, reall? That's all you got on him?
    Your "outrage" is a little weak, considering what your GOP was busy doing when they ran the 109th Congress, but sure this isn't about how much you just hate Dems. Suuurrreee.
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    You assume everyone who disagrees with you is a GOP fan. Silly argument on it's face. You really should read up on Independents and Conservatives (who aren't always the same as Republicans).
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    HOW ABOUT READING THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL
    OF RIGHTS?
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    This is entirely scary - and stands testament why vetting him is imperative.
  • john649 · 3 months ago
    Anytime you read an article with Martosko you must realize he is the farthest radical winger, right there with Beck and Co. He is nothing more than a plant by Berman and Co. (http://www.bermanexposed.org/) who are well funded by big business, have a radical agenda to smash anything that infringes on their greed of profits and control in EVERY realm. Read their websites, you can read about the front groups anti-everything stance. Although they claim they are for Consumer Freedom their funding from major corporations ensures their secret mission to strip away consumer rights at every turn. You think Beck is over the top...........do a little research on this guy and his trails of deceit.......
  • john649 · 3 months ago
    I apologize. I was mistaken. That "Berman Exposed" website is a union hatchet job. Martosko's OK.
  • john649 · 3 months ago
    very funny Berman people -TRYING TO ADD A COMMENT PRETENDING TO BE ME - nice try but your trickery won't work -WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!

    This website tells it all ! -LOL
    http://www.bermanexposed.org/

    Martosko's a CROCK and Deceitful master of the trade as evident by pretending to post as me - Thanks you showed us a great example of your tactics - LOL
  • john649 · 3 months ago
    I apologize again. My mood swings go up and down depending on Oprah's mood and Tyra's hairstyle.
  • john649 · 3 months ago
    you Berman people are stupid trying to pretend your me........all you have do is click the icon and we can see your email is different from mine! - LOL
  • john649 · 3 months ago
    by the way - I reported you so try your trickery again, I'm sure you have more ammunition to fool people! - LOL
  • WPZ · 3 months ago
    The Chicago Tribune has used Cass Sunstein as the regular go-to op-ed author with academic credentials for several topics, but most especially gun rights.
    More specifically, the abolishment of gun rights. The Tribune literally published an editorial calling for the complete removal of the Second Amendment from the Constitution in 2008.
    Sunstein has been used at least three times in my memory to backstop that position. Advocating for the "collective rights" argument is the least of it, although Sunstein has taken that failed position many a time.
    Unfortunately, the Tribune's financial distress has apparently made much of its archive unavailable to ordinary readers and I can't bring links to the Sunstein articles insisting the central government has the authority to ban the private ownership of guns and should do so.
    Perhaps someone in the trade can locate them, although the Tribune has cleansed many an article from the public archives that might seem unsavory now, such as many of the front-page hit piece articles on US Senatorial candidate Jack Ryan in 2004.
  • GOPRIP · 3 months ago
    What a crock. You're talking about an op/ed that lamented the new interpretation of the 2nd amendment in light of the Heller decision. The writer has an opinion you disagree with so of course he's a gun-hating loon on a slippery slope. Too bad no GOP ever links to this piece or you might actually have to use some critical thinking skills- BEFORE you disagree.
    From the op/ed, and the crux of his argument:

    If the founders had limited themselves to the final 14 words, the amendment would have been an unambiguous declaration of the right to possess firearms. But they didn’t, and it isn’t. The amendment was intended to protect the authority of the states to organize militias. The inartful wording has left the amendment open to public debate for more than 200 years. But in its last major decision on gun rights, in 1939, the U.S. Supreme Court unanimously found that that was the correct interpretation.

    On Tuesday, five members of the court edited the 2nd Amendment. In essence, they said: Scratch the preamble, only 14 words count.

    In doing so, they have curtailed the power of the legislatures and the city councils to protect their citizens.
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    Im sorry but I disagree.
    If you consider the men who wrote the document, the time period, and the circumstances of the documents. These men had just come out of a Revolutionary War.
    I do not believe that the amendment was ONLY intended to protect the authority of the states to organize militias.

    Try reading Thomas Jefferson and his reference to what he says will happen
    " When you beat your swords into plough shares".....
  • NotTheIdiot · 3 months ago
    A simple solution is to limit Governmental Immunity to elected officials.

    Then who cares what radical and nonsensical views a presidential troll has. If he/she screws up, the great legal system filled with liberal tort lawyers will have a feast.

    That and any intelligent parent with common sense should NEVER, EVER send a child to Harvard. What a joke. And you pay big bucks for THIS?
  • kJVC · 3 months ago
    The Beck Stuff is working and hopefully Sustien with his bizarre lack of understanding of humanity and law will never be confirmed for any position in government.
  • Bus41 · 3 months ago
    Snake-eye Cantor. When will his constituents get wise and throw his sorry arse out the door?
  • rskaz · 3 months ago
    Jones is black, Sunstein is Jewish. What more reason does the right need?
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    Do you have nothing more than throwing up the race card.


    Despite what you believe I have seen people on here with concerns(right or wrong) and instead of having a adult exchange of ideas and thoughts everyone is resorting to name calling and insults. Name calling hurts no one but you because not being able to hold an intelligent and adult conversation only hurts you.


    Is there No one on here with intelligence on here to actually discuss an issue; or is it all going to be childish name calling?
  • Patty · 3 months ago
    Glenn Beck is a right-wing nut…one of the crazies. I think those folks have succumbed to some sort of collective insanity.

    If Obama can appoint good people like Sunstein to offset the damage done by 8 horrific years of the wing-nut Bush Administration catering to industry lobbyists, and regulate business to change its abusive ways to animals as well as humans, then more power to him — maybe there’s hope for us all yet! We need more honest, intelligent, kind, and rational - people in government. Three cheers for Sunstein!
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    The best part is his views - even if you like them - are soooooooo far left of the Average American that it will serve to shock people when/if he gets his programs in action. In effect, most of America does not side with the likes of PETA. Heck, I almost welcome this type of crazy think as it truly sheds light on the wacky left.
  • Kim85 · 3 months ago
    Martosko is one of the most deceitful and evil of his kind.

    You can read about their front groups and here:
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Davi...
    They are notorious for tricking people with their subversive practices.
    http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/p...

    Anything written by this group is a ploy to trick people and brand their big business agenda, especially ANYTHING having to do with animals since their funding comes from using animals for profit.
    CCF has received funding from the Altria Group (formerly Philip Morris), Tyson Foods, Coca Cola and Monsanto. Tyson is also a major supplier of restaurant chains, including Kentucky Fried Chicken [3] and McDonalds. [4] Monsanto contracts product toxicity testing on animals out to Huntingdon Life Sciences. [5] All of these corporations, as well as Phillip Morris contract laboratory Covance Laboratories; have been the subject of PETA and/or other animal rights campaigns over animal testing and welfare issues. Over 40% of the group's 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman's PR company, Berman & Co. for management services.

    Are you surprised Martosko is anti Cass Sunstein - his lively hood depends on Sunstein's failure!
  • Sam85 · 3 months ago
    I agree, this Martosko and his band of roving, thieving gypsies are funded by corporate profits and will go to any lengths to protect their greed. Not convinced?? check out this website:
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Rich...


    Richard Berman Cares About Animals: Clients Exposed. PetaKillsAnimals.com is a website created in July 2004 by the Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF). [1] CCF is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol, tobacco and other industries. Over 40% of the group's 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman's PR company, Berman & Co. for "management services". [2]
  • Sam85 · 3 months ago
    These wingnuts are killing the republican party........I for one do NOT endorse this mind of fringe behavior. The Becks, Martoskos, Limbaughs, Palins are fodder for entertainment and nothing more.........
  • Catz · 3 months ago
    As an animal rights activist - we do not take these people seriously, knowing their goals is greed, pure greed and more greed, PERIOD.

    Each year, Berman, using his front group (Martosko) to spread misinformation, spends millions of dollars distracting the public with misleading ads.

    As a result of his largesse, in 2006, Richard Berman used $2,000,000 in cash to buy this $3.3 million house.

    These guys are lobbyists for greed.......
  • Brian · 3 months ago
    Sunstein is one the few forwarding thinking men of our times. Given the current media binge of latching onto hype of the most sensationalist kind, Cass is a refreshing breath of air and will serve his country with moderation and sensitivity......we support his new role wholeheartedly.
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Put down the bong and step away from the keyboard. FACT: Cass argued that rats could not be removed from a house if it causes the rats and stress or harm.

    Yeah - that sounds like a breath of fresh (albeit CRAZY) air.
  • geoff · 3 months ago
    Favorite Rethug pastime, taking words out of context and misrepresenting them.......
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Rethug? C'mon that's low-brow amigo.
  • geoff · 3 months ago
    I have one word to say...........Fringe, baby, fringe! ( make that 3 words)

    :)
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    I find that Sunstein is very intelligent. But you will never find any moderation in his view.
    And when your dog files suit against you (with taxpayer dollars) because his walk wasn't long enough for his liking you can tell us about his moderation and sensitivity.....

    I have the video in his own words. Not just hype and not just a snipit; the whole thing.......
  • Brock · 3 months ago
    Van Jones and Cass Sustein prove one thing:

    The Obama administration is the home of jews and blacks. How about a decent, hard working American for once, Hussein?
  • amy · 3 months ago
    hmmmm - so blacks and jews are NOT americans? nor decent or hard working....
    no prejudice here, huh?

    must be a republican.....
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    why in the world would you decide someone is a Republican just because they are a racists?
    I am not a Republican but I totally find that offensive.

    Maybe, just maybe IF YOU can call Brock a racists for his comments then he maybe just got his ideas on race from someone just as narrow-minded as you!
    Isn't that part of the problem in the US right now?

    It seems that Amy has No problem judging a book by the Cover Only.......
  • ilse · 3 months ago
    Brock,

    You are a racist and dining room table.
  • SusanElizabeth1949 · 3 months ago
    What sort of a person ARE you, Brock? Your post gives every indication that you do not believe that either Jews or Blacks are 'decent hardworking Americans. If that is truly your voice there is a name for a being who holds such views and it isn't "Decent American"
  • amy · 3 months ago
    this guy works for Martosko...............should of known
  • serena1313 · 3 months ago
    Sunstein is not the only one held-up, the Republicans have placed holds on as many as twenty or more others. It is ridiculous, however, they have thrown monkey wrenches in just about every nook and corner, from policy to confirmations, just to keep the administration from running smoothly. With the GOP and the far-right media attacking Obama 24/7/12 it is a wonder anything gets done.



    One would think that Obama is the first to create the "czar" title -- and that's all it is, a title -- he isn't the first. Actually the "czar" concept originated with Nixon -- re_member the "drug czar." The reason Obama has more czars in his administration than his predecessors (Reagan, Clinton, Bush & Cheney who had czars for almost every conceivable post) is simply due to the many fires left burning from the last administration.



    [Newsweek's satirist, Andy Borowitz, wrote in 2007, "the Bush WH needed a lying czar to oversee all distortions and misrepresentations..." ]



    So all this hoopla is just noise, more distraction. Nevertheless it is infuriating to see the Republicans spend all their time thinking of ways to bring down Obama. Republicans need to reassess their priorities because if we are to be prepared for future challenges we need solutions, not monkey wrenches.
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Read my note above and please tell me why my objections are unreasonable?
  • Thom · 3 months ago
    YOUR unreasonable because.....
    On a 63-35 vote, the Senate has broken the filibuster against Cass Sunstein, President Obama’s nominee for Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

    :)
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    That would actually be spelled "you're" but I digress. I can't wait for this wackado to expose himself with crazy legislation further alienating the Obama administration from the rank and file American further locking in a complete Dem loss of the Senate and perhaps even the House in 2010. You go Cass...prove me right.
  • thom · 3 months ago
    He's as go as gold! Even your wingnuts voted for the guy! :)

    sorry but wackado ISN'T a word - try either wacky or whacked -
    but then let's not digress.......
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Whackadoo is and it applies herein
  • thom · 3 months ago
    okay - digression it is!

    fringe, baby, fringe......
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/Conservatives... (and the moderates trend Independent by far)
  • thom · 3 months ago
  • thom · 3 months ago
    sorry bud - gotta go to my conservative ReThug pow wow......this is getting old.
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    The fact is the GOP is gaining power without a leader because the silent majority is waking up WITHOUT a defined leader. There is change being forced by the people who make up a majority of this country. Largely we reject the current agenda and the Dem's are bleeding Independents in agreement. Through in the Libertarians and the numbers are what they are. We are citizens - we should not judge people by the color of their skin but on the content of their character.
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    This guy walks in lock-step with PETA and will be in charge of regulations that include how food (livestock) is raised, where cattle can graze, etc. and thinks animals should be allowed to sue humans (using lawyers bringing cases on their behalf before the courts).

    One example is that he would prefer that school lunches ban both meat and dairy.

    He thinks hunting should be illegal and the 2nd Amendment doesn't allow for citizens to own firearms.

    So if these are examples of your belief system then I say rejoice in his nomination. For those of us that disagree I would wonder why raising red flags would be questionable? This guy holds radical beliefs and would be - in effect - the MOST POWERFUL person in Gov't you have never heard of - or for that matter voted for.
  • thom · 3 months ago
    you obviously HAVEN'T read his work, only listened to the wingnuts. Do some research before spewing.....even Republicans in the past have ALREADY supported his nomination.

    Turn OFF FAUX NOISE.....you might learn something
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Please tone down the attacking rhetoric as we are attempting to engage in (ahem) legitimate discourse on imp't issues. But if you like, and as someone else already posted on this board, allow me to quote him. "My major aim in this book is to uncover an important but neglected part of America’s heritage: the idea of a second bill of rights. In brief, the second bill attempts to protect both opportunity and security, by creating rights to employment, adequate food and clothing, decent shelter, education, recreation, and medical care."

    -- Cass R. Sunstein, The Second Bill of Rights: FDR’s Unfinished Revolution and
    Why We Need it More Than Ever, Basic Books, New York, 2004, p. 1

    Silly me - I don't believe we need a 2nd bill of rights and I certainly disagree with ALL OF HIS INTENTIONS. And last I check I have the right to disagree don't I?
  • thom · 3 months ago
    give it up, loser.........
    On a 63-35 vote, the Senate has broken the filibuster against Cass Sunstein, President Obama’s nominee for Administrator of the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs.

    He's as go as gold! Even your wingnuts voted for the guy! :)
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    a few Repubs (and basically those that are basically Dem's anyway) does not provide the cover you desire. Be careful what you wish for applies here because he will only further alienate the far left from the rest of the country. Silly liberals applies here.
  • thom · 3 months ago
    another example of a ReThug twisting the rhetoric and misrepresenting it.

    fringe, baby, fringe......LOL
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Fact: America is a center right country - there are more conservatives than liberals.
  • thom · 3 months ago
    hey, are you a Berman Baby?
  • peterprinciple · 3 months ago
    There's a bit of a difference between being a center right country and an extreme ultra-right wing-nut country -- something you ultra-right wing nuts seem to have trouble understanding.
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    What's actually entertaining is that you are soooo far left you think anyone on your right is a "wing-nut". Funny thing - one of the absolute best political pundits is (my opinion) Camille Paglia from Salon.com - I am Conservative but agree with her 75-% of the time cuz she simply calls it as she sees it. http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/09/09/...
  • Dan · 3 months ago
    And she is a staunch liberal. What, the link from Drudge got you hooked? Next thing you know, you'll buy some of her books, then start reading other "straight talking" liberals. Next thing you know, you'll be a liberal! 10 years down the road, you'll think that all of Camille's hand-wringing is nothing but a waste of time and does nothing to add to the argument. How do I know, I was you, tens years ago. You should just embrace what you are and become a progressive. You are starting to realize that conservatism is a lie and nothing more than a game at empowering the empowered. You are on your way, see you at the Democratic primary in the next decade!
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    I've been reading Paglia for some time and always look forward to her column - but thanks for assuming the least of my intellect...how very liberal of you. What's funny I was like you 15 years ago and am never going back for any number of reasons. See I am a Conservative but I respect voices of reason and she has one. She has no problem calling a spade a spade even if it's to the detriment of her own party. It's called a marketplace of ideas and if we keep the vitriol to a minimum we can find common ground. the amount of venom from the left toward anyone that disagrees with them is palatable. Think I'm wrong then please explain the DailyKos and Huffpo.
  • Dan · 3 months ago
    Or Redstate? Or WorldNetDaily? Please, show me the sites of these reasoned and compassionate conservatives. Funny to see you talk about Pagli and to find you here. It's not like the Washington Indepdent is a hotbed of conservative thought. Keep fooling yourself. You are liberal! :-)
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    The thing is I just enjoy the banter....and to be honest I think it can be done with relative civility. Really, just spending time agreeing with everyone doesn't pack the punch for me. And I would hope that a generally reasoned voice could help mix it up a bit.
  • Mari · 3 months ago
    are you that un intelligent that all you have to offer in an exchange of thoughts and ideas is; childish name calling?
  • Sam85 · 3 months ago
    thanks for your arrogance and high and mighty attitude ........always a good ploy to point a finger instead of offer reasoned facts or intelligent banter.
  • yourkidding · 3 months ago
    Sam85
    after reading all 3 of your post; your response to this person seems a bit hypercritical.
  • Mari · 3 months ago
    Why is it that when someone has facts that verify their point and disprove your point you Only have the ability to sling childish and petty names about?

    You ask oljw to do research. He obviously did and found facts to support his point and gave you the sources. Instead of having a logical, rational, and adult exchange of thought You only seem to have the ability to call others names....
    And this seems to be consistent.......


    When they cant dispute facts they resort to name calling.
    You know its really bad and they have no argument when they call all white people racists!
  • joeblow1113 · 3 months ago
    He is petty and childish. What's worse, is that he thinks he is arguing effectively.
  • joeblow1113 · 3 months ago
    No, the problem is people are reading his works...look "wingnut" is so yesterday...you need a new slur and FAUX...hmmm...that's pretentious and just confirms you're a person educated beyond your intellectual means.

    Let me give you another example...like Warren Hern:

    "...the human species is a rapacious, predatory, ominecophagic species engaged in a global pattern of converting all available plan, animal, organic and inorganic matter into either human biomass or into adaptive adjuncts of human biomass. This is an epiecopathological process that is both immediately and ultimately ecocidal.

    In this respect, the human species is an example of a malignant ecotumor, an uncontrolled proliferation of a single species that threatens the existence of other species in their habitats."

    First of all, I don't think this person could ever look upon another person without seeing rampaging metastasis. How can a self-loathing vision not create anything other than a warped point of view.

    With a point of view like this, I can see nasty policies of all sorts would be seen as favorable. So when people read statements like Hern, Singer, Holdren they hear crackpots that have infested the university systems.
  • md6379a · 3 months ago
    Should we really look at sound-bite versions of conclusions about things like animal rights and say "I agree" or "I disagree"? Why not read the arguments and then make objections to the premises or reasoning? For example, here is Peter Singer's famous argument for animal rights:

    http://www.webster.edu/%7Ecorbetre/philosophy/a...
  • capitalisa · 3 months ago
    Over the top my a**!! The guy is an A1 certified lunatic! Are these "admirers" for real?? I don't care what label they put on themselves, "dems," "libertarians," etc. They are totally evading the reality that this Sunstein represents. Dangerous!!
  • thom · 3 months ago
    blah, blah, blah.........your no different than Beck. This crass hate rhetoric is sinking like a ton of bricks.
  • joeblow1113 · 3 months ago
    blah, blah, blah...did you come up with that all by yourself...I haven't heard anybody use the word "crass" in awhile. Next thing ya know you'll be spouting "salacious."
  • ckelly12 · 3 months ago
    READ about him! READ his words! READ about who he belives in, PETER SINGER! He is a proponent of NUDGE... gently push the ignormant masses into not being able to afford meat, not having any hunting grounds left, having sex with animals and children (as long as you don't hurt them), animals are more important than humans, humans should be socially engineered. Of course it's frustrating!! No one can believe how evil and immoral this "intellectual's" thoughts and beliefs are! Obama believes it all, too!!! WAKE UP!!!
  • rand · 3 months ago
    OMG..........the end of the worlds is here!!!

    quick jump off a cliff and save yourself!!
  • oljw · 3 months ago
    Please - ladies first.
  • md6379a · 3 months ago
    Most of what you said is not Cass Sunstein's OR Peter Singer's views. Misrepresenting views and shouting is not useful to the public discussion. Here is Peter Singer's famous argument that started animal rights. Why not read it and then tell us your objections:

    http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/philosophy/ani...
  • Name · 3 months ago
    oljw -- your objections are unreasonable because you are an idiot. Any doofus like yourself who thinks anyone in Sunstein's position would have the power to do the things you mentioned doesn't understand government.

    People like you, who can be manipulated by every scaremongering politician are what has ruined this once-great country. Go watch teevee and let the adults fix your messes.
  • joeblow1113 · 3 months ago
    ooohhh, you're soooo smart
  • mikamiche100 · 3 months ago
    I wonder if obamination and his evil czars have ever labored with their hands over the creation of a physical structure, say a home, sweating blood and laying down tears? There is a certain rancid dryness of decay in all of them, overly-intellectual, fascinated with ideas that are repulsive to most humans. From their vulture perches they deign to look down upon us mere mortals, with absolutely no concept of the Personal Savior, religion is the opiate of the masses and all that dreck. Nowhere in the world does socialism work, nowhere in the world does communism work, and yet, that's the Plan between obaminator and his lackey czars: to bring a mix of two world views that don't work with the beauty and freedom and occasional chaos that is Freedom. Sooo elitist, so haughty, so smug, so dangerous, and so destructive. I pray to God that the HUGE amount of power they are already abusing will blow up publicly in their nasty, vacant, and arrogant smimey faces. They are soooo disconnected from the elements of humanity most of us hold dear. They are dead in the head, empty of soul, being filled instead with lies, hatred, and a cold, calculating malice that serves them well as they attempt to rip down the Constitution, abolish our sovereignty, and set themselves up as the-powers-that-think-they-be. These disgustingly ugly liars and hypocrites would do well to remember these words by Benjamin Franklin: "Much of the Strength and Efficiency of any Government, in procuring & securing Happiness to the People depends on Opinion, on the general Opinion of the Goodness of that Government as well as of the Wisdom & Integrity of its Governors. I hope therefore that for own Sakes, as a Part of the People, and for the Sake of our Posterity, we shall act heartily & unanimously in recommending this Constitution, wherever our Influence may extend, and turn our future Thoughts and Endeavors to the Means of having it well administered.--" Now, here's one of Sunnstein's little speeches: "My tentative suggestion is that the individual right to have guns (he can't even use the phrase in the document: BEAR ARMS) as it's being conceptualized now is taken as a contemporary creation and a reflection of current fears, not a reading of civic-centered founding debates." The only reflection of fear I hold is that these elitist power-addicted freaks have not only taken over the government, but will now attempt to use America and her people as their private laboratory where rats will overrun once-elegant restaurants, long closed due to food shortages, and the few children left after selective breeding and genetic tinkering. learn together in their classrooms set up for indoctrination of all sorts. So all you pinheads who think Glenn Beck "attacked" Van Jones and Sunnstein, go look up the transcripts from the last couple of weeks. Since you obviously aren't researching ANYTHING about ANY of this, I am sure you also voted obamination into office. Any blood that is shed, any freedom lost is partially on you. Did ANY of you even look into his voting record? And, as for Beck, he's the ONLY news anchor with the stones to deeply research all of this crap and then share it with viewers. It's so boring to read the same old complaints about the same old people...the republicans are as trashed as the liberals, you still see life as (R) against (D), you still don't see what is happening to the GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE---WE THE PEOPLE! Sorry, I digress, back to Beck et al: I always HAVE to ask: how many times have you watched their shows or listened to their radio shows? And you obviously have not read HR 3200. Anyone who wades through that pile of defecation soon realizes that it is a very scarey Trojan Horse, and I honestly think we should put the bill's authors up against the wall, or better yet, take them on a helicopter ride. Additionally, I can always tell which people are in for a very, very horrible wake-up call: the jackboot that you don't see coming down at this still-faking-it stage of Life With o is going to shatter some major belief systems and I just hope you have a WHOLE lot of valium around to help you through the next bits of this nightmare.
  • rand · 3 months ago
    what a rambling mess...........don't think anyone can understand this nonsense.
    is this the new Repub strategy?
  • joeblow1113 · 3 months ago
    what...has twitter stunted your ability to comprehend complex sentences...
  • monkey99 · 3 months ago
    Holy Cow!

    mikamiche100,

    Has anyone told you that in english, we group sentences together, to form "paragraphs?' Did you bother to proofread to make sure it was comprehensible, because personally, the clusterfox you present makes about as much sense as Glenn Beck, himself.

    Another child, left behind.
  • jaquebauer · 3 months ago
    Sunstein has no business in the White House, or any Governmental office. This man has a dangerous mind. Perhaps the FBI should look into his background. I bet if the FBI was still run by J Edgar----Obama and the rest of his commies would never step foot in the white house.

    Its about time Americans wake up, before Obama destroys our great nation. Obama must be stopped NOW. Today is 9-11. Obama is doing all he can to avoid recognizing this day. Why you ask, Because he hates America
  • American_Nightmare · 3 months ago
    Peter Singer - one of the most important philosophers of our time.
  • joeblow1113 · 3 months ago
    He has conservative fans?...well, that aren't conservative, then. They aren't classical liberals....they certainly don't understand the meaning of federalism.
  • rumpleforskin · 3 months ago
    Is it just me or is most college guru liberals way to doped up on drugs to know what the hell is going on? Where do these fascists come from? They certainly do not need power over us. If he want to ban hunting and ban guns, I'll make a deal with him. Ban leftists from power and we'll have a deal. Other wise ,STFU and mind your own damned business - communists suck swine tits. Marxism has to go from this country. It is an evil fascist Satanic LIE!
  • FirstShirt · 2 months ago
    I think that most Politicos that oppose hunting really have the agenda to disarm Americans. It's not hunting that bothers them, it is armed citizens... The Constitution just kinda chaps their ass.